Tuesday, 17^th September, 2024

The House met at 1430 hours

[MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

NATIONAL ANTHEM

PRAYER

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ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER

PRESENCE IN THE PUBLIC GALLERY OF PUPILS AND TEACHERS FROM NEW AVONDALE ACADEMY IN LUSAKA DISTRICT

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of pupils and teachers from New Avondale Academy in Lusaka District.

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors in our midst.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

PRESENCE IN THE PUBLIC GALLERY OF STUDENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ZAMBIA’S CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN LUSAKA DISTRICT

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I also wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of students from the University of Zambia’s (UNZA’s) Civic Association in Lusaka District.

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors in our midst.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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COMMUNICATION FROM THE SPEAKER

FIRST MEETING OF THE FOURTH SESSION OF THE THIRTEENTH NATIONAL ASSEMBLY

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to warmly welcome you all to the First Meeting of the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly. In line with Order No. 56 (1) of the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024, I wish to address the House.

Hon. Members, during the last Session, the National Assembly interacted with a wide range of stakeholders locally and internationally. These interactions are a sign that we have raised the bar and have made progress in attracting like-minded institutions with whom we have shared a wide range of ideas needed to actualise the constitutional mandate of law-making, citizen representation, provision of oversight, scrutiny of Executive functions and Budget approval.

It is worth noting that during the last Session, the House was addressed by three Heads of State, namely:

1. Her Excellency Samia Suluhu Hassan, President of the United Republic of Tanzania;

1. His Excellency Filipe Jacinto Nyusi, President of the Republic of Mozambique; and

1. His Excellency Évariste Ndayishimiye, President of the Republic of Burundi.

This is a clear demonstration of the growing international and parliamentary co-operation between Zambia and other countries in the region and beyond.

Let me now turn to the Business of the House expected to be considered during this Meeting. As hon. Members are aware, the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Hakainde Hichilema, addressed the House on Friday, 13^th September, 2024, during the occasion of the Ceremonial Official Opening of the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly. This address will be followed by the Motion of Thanks to the President’s Address, which commences today and will continue for seven sitting days until Thursday, 26^th September, 2024.

As hon. Members are aware, the main focus of this Meeting is the consideration and approval of the 2025 National Budget. I wish to inform the House that in order to enhance the Budget approval process, the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024, have provided for sector budget analysis. Sector budget analysis entails that after the Budget is presented by the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning, the Estimates will stand referred to the Committees for detailed scrutiny.

The Business of the House will immediately after presentation of the Budget be suspended for twenty working days. This is to allow the Committees to consider submissions from various stakeholders and submit reports to the Expanded Planning and Budgeting Committee. The Expanded Planning and Budgeting Committee will, thereafter, consider various Committee Reports and consolidate these reports into one report on the Budget Estimates, which will be tabled for use by the House during debates on the Motion of Supply. This procedure is provided for under Standing Orders No. 166 to 172. I, therefore, wish to urge you all to acquaint yourselves with the provisions of these Standing Orders to enable the House to undertake a smooth Budget approval process.

Hon. Members, other businesses expected to be transacted during the course of the meeting include the following:

1. Bills;

1. Questions;

1. Ministerial Statements;

1. Private Members’ Motions; and

1. Urgent Matters Without Notice.

Hon. Members, during the previous Session, we experienced some unfortunate incidences and conduct that was unbefitting the dignity, etiquette and decorum of the House that led to the suspensions of some hon. Members. Some of this conduct included the following:

1. coming late to the House and Committee meetings both at the beginning of a Sitting and after health breaks;

1. gross disorderly conduct;

1. hon. Members challenging Presiding Officers without following the prescribed procedure; and

1. engaging the Hon. Speaker in unnecessary altercations.

Such conduct is an unacceptable and will be met with necessary sanctions. It is my sincere hope and trust that during this Meeting, hon. Members will adhere to the rules of parliamentary practice, dignity, etiquette and decorum of the House so that the Business of the House is conducted in a smooth manner throughout the Meeting.

Let me end by requesting all hon. Members to ensure that the House uses time efficiently. I wish you all very fruitful deliberations throughout this very important meeting.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Does Her Honour the Vice-President wish to comment on the communication I have just rendered?

The Vice-President (Mrs Nalumango): Yes, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, let me join you in welcoming all hon. Members to the First Meeting of the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly. This Meeting presents us with another opportunity to serve the people through the parliamentary system.

Madam Speaker, as you have ably guided, this meeting will mainly focus on the approval of the 2025 National Budget which will be done under the sector budget analysis process. As the Leader of Government Business in the House, I wish to reiterate your guidance that hon. Members, especially hon. Ministers on my side, should acquaint themselves with the sector budget analysis process to avoid disruptions in the approval process.

Madam Speaker, as hon. Members, we are all working towards the development and the betterment of the lives of the people of Zambia, regardless of our political affiliation. In this regard, I expect that all of us will conduct ourselves in an orderly manner for the efficient conduct of Business of the House. It is my expectation that the Opposition will offer constructive checks and balances to the Executive, which will assist the Government to find lasting solutions to the various problems that affect our people throughout the country.

Madam Speaker, as hon. Members are aware, the country is currently facing the effects of the severe drought which has led to a hunger crisis and a reduction in water levels, thereby affecting power generation for domestic or household use and irrigation. The Executive will continue to issue Ministerial Statements to explain measures the Government is taking to mitigate the effects of the drought on national food security and power generation.

Madam Speaker, the need for conducting ourselves in a manner befitting the dignity of the House cannot be overemphasised. It is for this reason that I join you in calling upon all hon. Members to conduct themselves in a befitting manner.

Madam Speaker, let me end by stating that the Government is ready to proceed with the Business of the House for this Meeting and looks forward to fruitful deliberations.

Madam Speaker, may God give us wisdom and guide us in our deliberations throughout the Meeting.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Does the Leader of the Opposition also wish to comment on the Speaker’s communication?

Mr Chabinga (Mafinga): Yes, Madam Speaker.

Interruptions

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. I am so shocked that there are people still living in denial, but we will continue working.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chabinga: They will continue crying and they will cry the loudest. We will continue working and ensure that our people in the Republic of Zambia have development.

 

Madam Speaker, allow me to express my sincere gratitude and that of my hon. Colleagues in the Opposition for the opportunity accorded to us to render a few remarks on the communication you have just delivered to the House.

Interruptions

The First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Can we give him chance. Do not debate while seated, hon. Member for Kamfinsa.

Rev. Katuta: Mwandi belenga. Pamupando ndiye pako!

Laughter

Madam First Deputy Speaker: The hon. Member may continue.

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, thank you very much for your protection. We usually do not respond to such rhetoric. We are here to do business. We are serious and are not going to waste time.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, I also wish to join you and Her Honour the Vice-President in welcoming all hon. Members to the First Meeting of the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly. I wish to state that the recess gave us an opportunity to inspect various developmental projects funded through the Constituency Development Fund (CDF) being facilitated by the New Dawn Government in our various constituencies …

Interruptions

Mr Chabinga: … including constituencies of those who are arguing.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, as the Opposition, we remain steadfast in our work and are resolved to apply ourselves unreservedly in our continued pursuit for the much-needed development in this country. The Opposition shall endeavour to use the available platforms to provide the needed checks and balances to the Government.

Madam Speaker, I am delighted to note that you have talked about orderly conduct of hon. Members of Parliament in the House. I cannot agree with you more that this is a House of rules …

Mr Mabeta: Correct!

Mr Chabinga: … and that dignity, etiquette and decorum must be maintained at all times. We are cognisant of the fact that we may hold divergent views, but we believe that our views are made in the best interest of our people, including the people of Kamfinsa.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, I, therefore, call on all hon. Members of the Opposition to …

Mr Kang’ombe: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Mr Chabinga: … ensure that we adhere to the rules of the House and conduct ourselves in a manner that upholds the dignity, etiquette and decorum of the House. As the Leader of the Opposition –

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, I will emphasise that as the Leader of the Opposition, I will not stand on the side of any erring hon. Member of the Opposition.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, hon. Members on your left are committed to ensuring that the 2025 National Budget is scrutinised and approved under the new procedure of sector budget analysis for the benefit of the Zambian people, including the people of Nkana.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr B. Mpundu: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Mr Chabinga: Madam Speaker, we look forward to a very productive Meeting.

I thank you so much, Madam Speaker.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

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URGENT MATTER WITHOUT NOTICE

Madam First Deputy Speaker: I see no indications for Urgent Matters Without Notice.

Rev. Katuta (Chienge): There is one, Madam Speaker.

Interruptions

Rev. Katuta: Madam Speaker, I need your protection. I have been told that I am on my own and I do not know why. I am an Independent Member of Parliament and I represent the good people of Chienge.

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Member for Chienge, resume your seat. My apologies, we have skipped one item on the Order Paper. We will come back to this segment.

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BUSINESS STATEMENT

The Vice-President (Mrs Nalumango): Madam Speaker, I wish to inform the House that the House Business Committee met on Thursday, 12^th September, 2024 –

Interruptions

Madam First deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Member for Chienge, can we give Her Honour the Vice-President a chance to issue her statement.

May Her Honour the Vice-President continue.

The Vice-President: Madam Speaker, the House Business Committee met to determine and scheduled Business of the House for the period 17^th to 27^th September, 2024. The Committee resolved to lay before the House the following business for consideration in the next two weeks:

Announcements

Hon. Madam Speaker may make announcements, if there will be any.

Rulings

Hon. Madam Speaker may render rulings, if there will be any.

Ministerial Statements

Hon. Ministers will render Ministerial Statements on several topical issues during this period.

Private Members Motions

The following Private Members Motion is scheduled to be considered during this period:

Mr M. Fube, MP, will move a Motion entitled: “Establish a Poverty Datum Line” on 25^th September, 2024.

Bills

The Bills listed hereunder will be considered:

1. The Health Professions Bill, No. 11 of 2024. This will be at the Second Reading stage and the date for consideration is yet to be determined;

1. The National Health Research and Training Bill, No. 13 of 2024. This will be at the Second Reading stage and the date for consideration is yet to be determined;

1. The Zambia Medicines and Medical Supplies Agency (Amendment) Bill, No. 14 of 2024. This will be at the Second Reading stage and the date for consideration is yet to be determined; and

1. The Zambia National Public Health Institute (Amendment) Bill, No. 15 of 2024. This will be at the Second Reading stage and the date for consideration is yet to be determined.

Reports on International Conferences

Reports on international conferences will be considered, if there will be any.

Motion of Thanks – His Excellency the President’s Address

The House will debate the Motion of Thanks to His Excellency the President’s Address from Tuesday, 17^th, which is today, to Thursday, 26^th September, 2024. The debate on the Motion will take place for a period of seven days. Five of these days will be allocated to hon. Members from the Backbench.

Suspension of Standing Orders

On Thursday, 26^th September, 2024, I will move a Motion to suspend relevant Standing Orders to enable the House to sit in the afternoon on Friday, 27^th September, 2024, to enable the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning to render his Budget Address. The Motion will further seek to suspend Standing Order No. 27 to enable the House to adjourn at 2030 hours on Thursday, 26^th September, 2024. This is in order to give ample time to hon. Ministers to debate the Motion of Thanks to the President’s Address before it is wound-up.

Questions

Hon. Ministers will respond to nineteen Questions for Oral and Written Answers. The details of the questions are contained in the Notice of Questions circulated to all hon. Members.

The questions on standby to replace questions that may not be placed on the Order Paper on the designated day for one reason or another are as set out hereunder. Further, more questions may be placed on the Order Paper on any of the days, if the number of hon. Members indicating to debate the Motion of Thanks to His Excellency the President’s Address will be low.

Question No.               Sector

229                           Local Government

40                             Energy

235                           Youth

78                             Finance

28                             Home Affairs

112                           Media

115                           Infrastructure

125                           Mines

133                           Transport

266                           Education

Madam Speaker, on behalf of the House Business Committee and in accordance with Order No. 44 of the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024, I have the pleasure to present the business for the next two weeks to this august House.

I thank you, Madam.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

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URGENT MATTER WITHOUT NOTICE

REV. KATUTA, HON. MEMBER FOR CHIENGE, ON HER HONOUR THE VICE-PRESIDENT, MRS NALUMANGO, ON THE DISPOSAL OF SOLAR BATTERIES

Rev. Katuta (Chienge): Madam Speaker, this Urgent Matter Without Notice is directed to Her Honour the Vice-President, who is the Leader of Government Business in this House.

Madam Speaker, His Excellency the President has instructed Zambians to buy solar panels or to go the solar way. It is quite saddening that the House has not heard from the Government how it will inform the nation on the dangers of disposing off solar batteries because they need to be disposed off after a period of time.

Madam Speaker, I really need your indulgence on this issue because the Government has not taken that step seriously. People are now buying invertors and solar panels without the knowledge on how to dispose-off the batteries when the time comes.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Chienge, when you look at the criteria for Urgent Matters Without Notice, you will note that it has to be something that happened within twenty-four hours. I believe that the President’s directive was made some months back. If possible, the hon. Member for Chienge can come up with a question or use another platform to bring that matter to the House.

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MINISTERIAL STATEMENT

RAINFALL FORECAST FOR 2024/2025 SEASON

The Minister of Green Economy and Environment (Mr Mposha): Madam Speaker, let me start by thanking you for granting me this opportunity to represent a Ministerial Statement to this august House regarding the forecast for the 2024/2025 Rainfall Season.

Madam Speaker, through this Ministerial Statement, I intend to inform you and the nation on the projected rainfall pattern for the forthcoming rainy season. This forecast is designed to support monthly to seasonal planning across various sectors, which include, among others, agriculture, water, energy, health and disaster risk management. All these are influenced by seasonal rainfall variations.

Madam Speaker, the past 2023/2024 Rainfall Season was marked by a severe drought that was largely induced by the El Niño conditions. This state of climate has had a devastating negative impact on Zambia’s key economic sectors and population.

Madam Speaker, agriculture, one of the cornerstones of our economy, suffered unprecedented losses with maize production declining by over 50 per cent compared to the previous seasons. This shortfall led to a food deficit affecting over 6 million people and contributed to a sharp increase in food prices. The drought also significantly reduced water availability for both domestic and industrial use. Further, pasture for livestock production was negatively impacted, while hydropower generation at our reservoirs was not spared as can be witnessed by the long hours of load management that we are currently experiencing for both domestic and industrial use.

Madam Speaker, the economic losses from the drought are substantial. The agricultural sector alone has experienced losses in billions of Zambian Kwacha. The decline in hydropower generation has also resulted in energy shortages disrupting economic and industrial activities and in some cases leading to job losses. Additionally, the drought situation has negatively impacted tourism, as reduced water levels in national parks and other attractions have led to a decline in visitor numbers and even negatively affected wildlife.

Madam Speaker, meteorological information plays a vital role in mitigating the impacts of extreme weather events like droughts and floods. It goes without saying that accurate and timely rainfall forecasts can enable farmers to make informed decisions about planting, irrigation and crop management. Early warning of extreme weather and climate episodes allow for the implementation of drought and flood mitigation strategies, such as promoting drought-tolerant crops, improving water harvesting techniques and providing timely humanitarian assistance.

Madam Speaker, further, meteorological services can contribute to disaster risk reduction by providing information on potential floods, heat waves and other climate-related hazards. This enables authorities to issue timely warnings and activate emergency response plans, saving lives or livelihoods and minimising property damage.

Madam Speaker, investing in strengthening meteorological services and early warning systems can be a strategic decision with significant benefits. By expanding and modernising our hydro meteorological observation network, we can enhance our ability to produce accurate, reliable and timely early warning information. This enhances the response to extreme weather events such as droughts and floods, resulting in more effective decision making in agriculture, water resources management, disaster preparedness and public health.

Madam Speaker, to prepare for the upcoming season, I am pleased to share with this august House and the Zambian people the 2024/2025 Rainfall Season forecast as follows:

1. the current neutral phase of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is projected to transition to a weak La Niña phase during the 2024/2025 Rainfall Season. This weak La Niña, characterised by below normal sea surface temperatures in the tropical eastern Pacific Ocean is expected to primarily influence Zambia’s rainfall pattern during the season. Consequently, the 2024/2025 Rainfall Season is likely to exhibit the following characteristics:

1. normal rainfall over most parts of Zambia, with episodes of heavy rainfall and flooding in flood prone areas; and
2. normal to below-normal rainfall in the north-eastern parts of the country.

1. onset of rains is expected in October over the Western, northern parts of Luapula and North-Western Provinces. The start of the season for places in the Central, Copperbelt, Lusaka and Southern Provinces, including the southern parts of Muchinga and Northern Provinces is likely to be by the end of November, 2024;

1. delayed onset of rains is likely over the extreme north-eastern parts of the country, including Luangwa, Chirundu, Gwembe and Sinazongwe Districts. These areas may start receiving rains by mid-December, 2024; and

1. cessation of rains is likely in March, 2025 over the southern half and by the end of April over the eastern and northern parts of Luapula and Northern Provinces.

Madam Speaker, the detailed forecast and key rainfall patterns are as follows:

1. October, November and December – Most of the country is likely to receive normal to above normal rainfall. However, the northern districts of Eastern, Muchinga, Northern, and Luapula Provinces may experience normal to below-normal rainfall during this period;

1. November, December and January – The northern districts mentioned earlier will continue to experience normal to below-normal rainfall, while the rest of the country can expect normal to above-normal rainfall;

1. December, January and February – Most parts of the country are expected to experience normal to above-normal rainfall, with potential flooding in flood-prone areas. However, the northern regions are likely to see normal to below-normal rainfall during this period. Additionally, it is important to note that while most of the country may receive normal to above-normal rainfall during this period, eastern Angola, which significantly contributes to the inflows into the Zambezi River catchment, is likely to receive normal to below-normal rainfall. This could subsequently affect inflows into Lake Kariba; and

1. January, February and March – Normal to above-normal rainfall is anticipated throughout the country during this period.

Madam Speaker, during the 2024/2025 Rainfall Season, areas that are projected to receive normal to below-normal rainfall may experience dry spells and increased chances of agricultural pests and diseases. On the other hand, areas that are likely to receive normal to above-normal rainfall may experience floods and flash floods, especially in prone areas, and also fungal and water-borne diseases, such as cholera and malaria transmission, will increase in rates. This will include infrastructural damage, especially to civil structures such as roads, bridges and culverts and occurrence of agricultural pests across the country.

Madam Speaker, generally, the onset of the rains is expected by end of November, 2024 in most parts of the country. I will repeat. Generally, the onset of the rains is expected by end of November, 2024 in most parts of the country. However, the north-western and western parts of Zambia are likely to start experiencing thunderstorms and showers by October.

Madam Speaker, as we approach the rainy season, it is crucial for us to come together as a community to ensure our safety and wellbeing. I urge our civic leaders, churches and communities to take proactive steps in keeping our drainages and waterways clear of debris. This simple yet vital action will prevent water pools from forming when it rains, reducing the risk of flooding and water-borne diseases.

Madam Speaker, I wish to commend our citizens for their efforts in adopting alternative sources of energy for cooking, including liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) and a variety of biomass pellets. This is truly commendable as it will support efforts to reduce rampant deforestation, which is a key driver of climate change.

Madam Speaker, I also strongly commend the Zambian citizens for heeding the President’s call to install solar panels on rooftops to mitigate the negative impacts of the energy deficit the country is facing.

Madam Speaker, as this forecast is based on three-months averages, users of this forecast are advised to get regular updates on the actual and expected rainfall during the entire rainy season through community radio stations, the Zambia National Broadcasting Corporation (ZNBC), e-mail and electronic platforms such as social media, WhatsApp and websites. The Ministry of Green Economy and Environment will continue giving updates to the nation throughout the rainy season.

Madam Speaker, as we navigate through challenging times, it is essential for everyone to stay informed and prepared. I strongly urge all citizens to regularly seek sector-specific advisories from relevant ministries and institutions such as those in agriculture, water development and sanitation, energy and health sectors. Advisories will provide crucial information that can help citizens to make informed decisions and take appropriate actions.

Madam Speaker, as I conclude, I wish to urge hon. Members to be the ambassadors and messengers of this forecast to all their constituencies to ensure that the nation is prepared and takes up opportunities that will come with the expected good rains and also prepare for adverse impacts that may arise during the season. Please, note that this forecast is available in seven local languages.

Madam Speaker, I wish you and all hon. Members of this august House a very productive 2024/2025 Rainfall Season.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Madam Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members are now free to ask questions on points of clarification on the Ministerial Statement issued by the hon. Minister of Green Economy and Environment.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: I hope the hon. Members are going to disseminate this very important information to our members of the public.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER

SESSIONAL COMMITTEES – MEMBERSHIP

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to inform the House that in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 176(3), I have made changes to the composition of Sessional Committees, as follows:

Committee on Media, Information and Communication Technologies

Mr Stanley Kakubo, MP, to replace Mr Oliver M. Amutike, MP

Committee on Cabinet Affairs

Ms Chushi C. Kasanda, MP, to replace Mr Oliver M. Amutike, MP

Planning and Budgeting Committee

 

Mr Oliver M. Amutike, MP, to replace Mr Mwabashike Nkulukusa, MP

Committee on Parastatal Bodies

Dr Chitalu Chilufya, MP, to replace Mr Binwell Mpundu, MP,

Committee on Energy, Water Development and Tourism

Mr Binwell Mpundu, MP, to replace Dr Chitalu Chilufya, MP

Committee on Local Government Accounts

Mr Pavyuma Kalobo, MP, to replace Mr Luka Simumba, MP

Committee on Legal Affairs, Human Rights and Governance

Mr Luka Simumba, MP, to replace Mr Pavyuma Kalobo, MP

Committee on Education, Science and Technology

Mr Allen Banda, MP, to replace Mr Pavyuma Kalobo, MP

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

SILO CONSTRUCTION IN CHIENGE DISTRICT

1. Rev. Katuta (Chienge) asked the Minister of Agriculture:

 

1. when the construction of the Mununga Food Reserve Agency Silos in Chienge District will resume;

 

1. what the cause of the delay in completing the project is; and

 

1. what the time frame for the completion of the project is.

 

Mr B. Mpundu interjected.

The Minister Agriculture (Mr Mtolo): Madam Speaker, the Food Reserve Agency (FRA) is not constructing silos at Mununga in Chienge District.

Mr B. Mpundu interjected.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Member for Nkana, you are disturbing the proceedings of the House.

Mr B. Mpundu interjected.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Member for Nkana, we have just started our Sittings today. Can you, please, leave the Assembly Chamber for today!

The hon. Minister of Agriculture may continue.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, I just indicated that the FRA is not constructing silos at Mununga in Chienge District.

Madam Speaker, there is no delay because, as stated above, there is no construction of silos in Chienge District.

Madam Speaker, since there is no such project, there is no time frame.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr B. Mpundu started talking to hon. PF Members as he was leaving the Assembly Chamber.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Nkana, please, leave the Assembly Chamber now!

Mr B. Mpundu left the Assembly Chamber.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: The hon. Minister of Agriculture may continue.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, I actually concluded my response.

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Those are the distractions we talk about. Please, hon. Members, let us not distract the proceedings of the House.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, with your indulgence, I can repeat the answer.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: It is alright. We will go to supplementary questions.

Rev. Katuta: Madam Speaker, the people of Chienge are aware that the previous Government had started constructing what was supposed to be a silo, where all the grains produced in Chienge would be stored. When the United Party for National Development (UPND) came into power, it cancelled the contract for that project.

Hon. Government Members: Question!

Rev. Katuta: Madam Speaker, as a result of that, farmers have to go to Nchelenge whenever they need a produce certificate. We do not have a crop marketing assistant in Chienge. There is nowhere he or she can operate from.

Madam Speaker, I do not understand why the hon. Minister said that the Government has never embarked on such a project. There is a site in Mununga where the foundation for a silo was done. So, I would like to find out which project the hon. Minister said it has never been started. There was a contract for the project and the work started, but it was cancelled. I want to find out why it was cancelled.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, as an agent of the state, I can only answer what I know and what is on record. I have no idea of what the hon. Member is talking about. I would encourage her to educate us a little bit more so that the Government looks into the issue.

Madam Speaker, whenever hon. Members ask questions, it would be nice for them to ask exactly what they want to ask. The hon. Member was probably referring to a storage shed, but the question was about a silo. There is a huge difference between the two. That notwithstanding, I would like to have a chat with the hon. Member so that we look into the issue further.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Rev. Katuta: Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister is aware that each district is supposed to have a crop marketing assistant. However, Chienge does not have one because there is nowhere he or she can operate from. Instead, our crop marketing assistant operates from Nchelenge.

Madam Speaker, last farming season, Chienge District was third in Luapula Province in maize production and other grains, after Mansa and Kawambwa.  However, Chienge does not have what I am talking about. If the hon. Minister says he is not aware of what I am talking about, then I wonder if the Government considers the people of Chienge to be existent.

Madam Speaker, I have information that there was a contractor on site. That is why I said when the UPND came into power, it terminated the contract. Is the hon. Minister telling me that he is not aware of what is happening in Chienge when Chienge is the third maize producing district in Luapula Province? I need a clear answer from the hon. Minister on the matter. If he does not know what is happening, I can engage him.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, the question was related to the construction of a silo. I cannot stand here and agree that I do not know what is happening in Chienge. I know what is happening in Chienge. We have a representative from Chienge, the hon. Member of Parliament. With due respect, we consider the people of Chienge as Zambians, just like any other citizens. That is why we are here. I am the hon. Member of Parliament for Chipata and she is the hon. Member of Parliament for Chienge. We are equal partners and equal citizens in this lovely country Zambia.

Madam Speaker, as far as the silo in Chienge is concerned, I am not aware. A silo is a huge cylindrical structure, which goes up or downwards into the earth and can store a lot of maize. I do not know that we were building something like that in Chienge. I should be telling the truth. I repeat that a silo is not like a shed. Let us differentiate the two and know what we are talking about.

Madam Speaker, there are many grain barns in Chienge that I know about, but there is no silo in the district. As far as the record at the ministry is concerned, there were no intentions to construct a silo in Chienge that I have come across. If there were, I humbly ask the hon. Member to guide me so that we look at the issue together as citizens of this beautiful country in enhancing the development of agriculture.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

MORTUARY CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR KAZUNGULA DISTRICT HOSPITAL

2. Mr Andeleki (Katombola) asked the Minister of Health:

1. whether the Government has any plans to construct a mortuary at Kazungula District Hospital;

1. if so, when the plans will be implemented; and

1. what the estimated cost of the project is.

Mr Andeleki: Madam Speaker, thank you for the opportunity, but I am withdrawing the question.

Question accordingly withdrawn.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

UPGRADE PLANS FOR NDABALA/CHIBALE ROAD IN SERENJE DISTRICT

3. Mr E. Banda (Muchinga) asked the Minister of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development:

1. whether the Government has any plans to upgrade Ndabala/Chibale Road in Serenje District to bituminous standard;

1. if so, when the plans will be implemented; and

1. if there are no such plans, why.

The Minister of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development (Eng. Milupi): Madam Speaker, the Government has plans to upgrade the Ndabala/Chibale Road in Serenje District to bituminous standard.

Madam Speaker, the plans will be implemented once the required funds have been secured by the Treasury.

Madam Speaker, the Government plans to upgrade the road, as indicated above, and, therefore, part (c) of the question falls off.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Are there any supplementary questions?

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Members!

Mr E. Banda: I have no further questions, Madam Speaker.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Are we missing out on something?

Hon. Members: Yes, too much!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: We have not had supplementary questions starting from the ministerial statement and now the Questions for Oral Answer. Hon. Members, the public is watching and listening.

Hon. Members: Yes!

Laughter

MEASURES TO ENHANCE ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE

5. Mr Kang’ombe (Kamfinsa) asked the Minister of Finance and National Planning:

1. whether the Government is aware that the increase in the statutory reserve ratio, price of fuel and depreciation of the Kwacha are adversely affecting the performance of the economy; and

1. if so, what measures are being taken to minimise the negative impact of these developments on the citizens, especially the vulnerable.

Mr Kang’ombe: Madam Speaker, I withdraw the question.

Question accordingly withdrawn.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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MOTION

MOTION OF THANKS

Mr Mabeta (Kankoyo): Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the thanks of this Assembly be recorded for the exposition of public policy contained in the President’s Address.

Madam Speaker, allow me at the outset –

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Member, you are just moving the Motion.

Mr Mabeta: Sorry, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Is the Motion Seconded?

Mr J. Chibuye (Roan): I beg to second the Motion, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: As hon. Members are aware, the Motion was supposed to be seconded by the hon. Member for Nyimba. However, due to unforeseen circumstances, the Motion will be seconded by the hon. Member for Roan.

Mr Mabeta: Madam Speaker, allow me at the outset to thank you for according me the rare honour and privilege to move the Motion of Thanks to the speech by His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Hakainde Hichilema, on the occasion of the Official Opening of the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly on Friday, 13^th September, 2024. In doing so, let me start by commending the President for placing economic transformation and job creation at the centre of his administration’s socio-economic development agenda.

Madam Speaker, before I delve deeper into this Motion, I would like to put it on record that the speech by the President was both inspirational and timely. The speech, which was delivered under the theme, “Enhancing National Resilience: Sustaining Socio-economic Gains in the Face of Adverse Effects of Climate Change”, not only outlined the country’s socio-economic development trajectory for the coming year, but also spoke to the current challenges that the country is experiencing due to the adverse effects of climate change.

Madam Speaker, the President underscored the resilience of our economy and the key interventions being undertaken to sustain our country’s socio-economic gains amidst the devastating effects of the drought. By anchoring his speech on the four pillars of the Eighth National Development Plan (8NDP), the President demonstrated his strong visionary leadership and resolve to address Zambia’s socio-economic challenges. Above all, the speech is a further testament to the United Party for National Development (UPND) Government’s resolve to actualise the objectives of the 8NDP despite the devastating effects of climate change on our economy.

Madam Speaker, due to lack of time, allow me to just highlight three salient issues raised in the President’s Address, namely:

1. significant improvements in the agriculture sector;

1. massive investments in the mines; and

1. development and expansion of transport infrastructure.

Significant Improvements in the Agriculture Sector

Madam Speaker, the agriculture sector is critical to achieving diversification, economic growth and poverty reduction in Zambia. However, as we all know, the majority of agricultural activities are dependent on rainfall, making the sector extremely vulnerable to climate change. The President reported on some of the key interventions the UPND Government has been implementing to stimulate the agriculture sector since assuming power in 2021.

Madam Speaker, despite a seemingly bleak picture, the Government’s resolve to improve the agriculture sector and increase food security in the country remains admirable and deserves commendation. The President announced that in its quest to promote resilience among smallholder farmers, who have been significantly affected by a devastating drought, the Government is providing affordable financing for mechanisation and irrigation. The Sustainable Agriculture Financing Facility (SAFF), with particular support for irrigation, will enable farmers to grow crops all-year round.

Massive Investments in the Mines

Madam Speaker, as we are all aware, mining is key to sustaining Zambia’s economic growth, providing employment opportunities to our people and revenue generation, contributing 12 per cent towards Zambia’s gross domestic product (GDP) and contributing to over 70 per cent of the country’s export earnings. In this regard, the Government should be commended for reviving the mining industry and for bringing all mining assets to full production in our country’s quest to attain 3 million metric tonnes of copper production by 2031.

Madam Speaker, it is gratifying to note that the Government has resolved all outstanding issues with Mopani Copper Mines and Konkola Copper Mines (KCM), with International Resources Holdings, the equity partner at Mopani Copper Mines, investing US$1.1 billion into its mining ventures and Vedanta Resources Limited injecting US$1.2 billion into KCM.

Madam Speaker, as a Member of Parliament form the Copperbelt Province, I am excited to note the President’s commitment to ensuring that the country exploits all its mineral resources. To this end, I welcome the Government’s commencement of the high-resolution aerial geophysical survey to explore mineral and groundwater deposits in Zambia.

Madam Speaker, I can continue to enumerate a number of achievements that our Government has scored, which the President clearly itemised in his speech. However, let me end by appealing to all hon. Members to debate the President’s Address with soberness and objectivity. Let us use evidence and facts as we debate. In his address, as noted, the President used facts and statistics to illustrate his points.

Madam Speaker, I also wish to urge all hon. Members to support the Government in its efforts to enhance national resilience and sustain socio-economic gains in the face of the severe effects of climate change.

Madam Speaker, with these remarks, I beg to move. I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Does the seconder wish to speak now or later?

Mr J. Chibuye: Now, Madam Speaker.

Mr J. Chibuye: Madam Speaker, allow me to sincerely thank you for allowing me to second the Motion that has been ably moved by the Member of Parliament for Kankoyo, Hon. Heartson Mabeta, on the speech that was issued to this House by His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Hakainde Hichilema –

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Member for Roan!

I am suspending business for ten minutes to just look at an administrative matter.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

 Madam First Deputy Speaker: We will come back after ten minutes.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Members!

I think ten minutes will not be sufficient. I am going to suspend the proceedings for twenty minutes.

Business was suspended from 1538 hours until 1616 hours.

[MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

Mr J. Chibuye: Madam Speaker, before business was suspended, I was saying thank you most sincerely for giving me an opportunity to second the Motion of Thanks to His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Hakainde Hichilema, delivered to this House on Friday, 13^th September, 2024.

Madam Speaker, as I second the Motion, allow me to thank Hon. Heartson Mabeta, Member of Parliament for Kankoyo Constituency, for ably moving the Motion on the Floor of the House.

Madam Speaker, I will look at three critical issues that were raised by His Excellency the President as he addressed this House. These are:

1. economic transformation and job creation;

1. water and sanitation; and

1. Constituency Development Fund (CDF).

Economic Transformation and Job Creation

Madam Speaker, on agriculture, the President mentioned that during the 2024/2025 Farming Season, the financing facility will increase to over K1.2 billion, from K400 million in the 2023/2024 Farming Season, to include a broad range of crops, livestock and aquaculture.

Madam Speaker, the President was magnanimous when he talked about the drought that has hit the country due to El Niño conditions, which has left a lot of devastation not only to agriculture, but to so many sectors in the country. It is in this vein that I urge the Government to target the vulnerable groups in our country, namely; the youth, women and people with disabilities, in the implementation of interventions meant to promote resilience among smallholder farmers amid climate change.

Madam Speaker, for the successful implementation of the agricultural development policy, the Government is called upon to employ agriculture, livestock and fisheries extension officers, who are currently few in number. The employment of more extension officers is cardinal in ensuring increased agricultural production and productivity.

Water and Sanitation

Madam Speaker, the President highlighted the following measures the Government is taking to tackle water and sanitation challenges:

1. improving water resource management such as the revision of the National Water Policy and accelerating the development of water supply infrastructure; and

1. promoting water harvesting and other climate smart technologies to improve water storage and supply.

Madam Speaker, harvesting of water and improving on the water storage facilities is very important. I will continue sounding like a broken record by always referring to what is happening in my constituency regarding the de-flooding of 28 Shaft. The mine is holding close to 170 cu litres of water. If this water is harvested and harnessed properly, it can also help to address what the President talked about. I want to urge the hon. Minister of Water Development and Sanitation to take interest in this matter.

Madam Speaker, it is essential for the United Party for National Development (UPND) Administration to deliberately invest in water infrastructure and support water harvesting techniques across all the ten provinces in Zambia and even in Roan Constituency. The President indicated the need to protect headwaters, water catchment areas and water bodies from encroachment, deforestation and pollution to ensure sustainable water resources. It is sad that the people who are responsible for allocating plots are allowing encroachments around water bodies such as aquifers.

Madam Speaker, we welcome the President’s pronouncement, but there is need for a multi-sectoral approach to tackle high poverty levels, which are being exacerbated by climate change leading to illegal activities such as charcoal burning, timber harvesting, illegal fishing and farming in dambo areas, thereby seriously threatening important water resources. There is need for the ministries responsible for water development, green economy, environment, agriculture, fisheries and livestock to work together to resolve these issues. The three hon. Ministers responsible for these sectors must work in a multi-sectoral approach.

Constituency Development Fund

Madam Speaker, the President was magnanimous in stating that the CDF is a game changer. The CDF addresses the urgent local needs such as improved infrastructure, better education and healthcare facilities, but most importantly, it now deals with the expansion of education opportunities through bursaries. As a result, more students are now going to school. The fund is, indeed, a game changer. In my constituency, we have already seen the positive impact of the CDF in the construction of classroom blocks and improvement of feeder roads, providing greater access to schools and markets.

Madam Speaker, my appeal to His Excellency the President and his administration is to expeditiously address the challenges which have arisen in the implementation of the CDF. Despite the launch of the revised guidelines on managing the expanded scope of the CDF, challenges still remain. Some of these are:

1. bureaucratic delays at project approval stage and in processing funds;

1. rampant corruption arising from procurement processes; and

1. inadequate capacity of key stakeholders who sit to plan and budget for CDF projects.

Madam Speaker, my hope is that these issues will be addressed so that the increased CDF can be a success and adequately uplift the lives of our people and bring about the envisaged local community development.

Madam Speaker, as I conclude, let me join the President in urging the nation to harness the power of national unity, collaboration and determination in order to achieve our country’s development aspirations. This is very important because without unity the country cannot achieve these aspirations.

Madam Speaker, with these few words, I beg to second the Motion. I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali (Nominated): Madam Speaker, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to say a few words on the President’s Address to the nation.

Madam Speaker, I want to speak on a few things that the President mentioned, starting with corruption and how the economy is performing. I will also speak on how the President wants to ensure that this country remains united. I will address these matters in no particular order.

Madam Speaker, indeed, corruption is a cancer to this country. It being a cancer, I think we need to put our efforts together to fight this scourge and ensure that our people get the benefits of the absence of corruption in any institution of governance.

Madam Speaker, the President said that there will be no sacred cows whether someone did corruption in the past, now or in future. The law will apply equally on all the people who have been given an opportunity to manage the resources of this country. I want to agree with the President when he said that there should be unity of purpose for all of us to ensure that corruption is fought and eradicated. That is when our people are going to fully-benefit from public resources. It is for this reason that I am emphasising the President’s point on corruption.

Madam Speaker, I want to agree with the President’s sentiments on the importance of unity in this House. This is one of the speeches I have listened to where the President emphasised on unity among hon. Members of this House as well as the nation. He was very emphatic. It is desirable for all of us to be united. A house divided will always fall. If we are not going to be united and ensure that we fight a common goal, then we are going nowhere.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Kapyanga: Unity! Well done!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, further, I want to say that –

Mr Kapyanga: Unity is very important!

Laughter

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, I want to say that the President meant well when he called on all of us to be united …

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali: … and ensure that this country moves forward. The country cannot move forward if we fail to be united.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, allow me to speak about a few sectors that I think have shown great importance and improvements due to the President’s leadership. When it comes to mining, I think the President of this Republic, Mr Hakainde Hichilema, has performed very well so far in ensuring that the mines are revived.

Mr Simumba: Unity!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, the heavy investment in the creation of greenfield mines clearly shows the confidence that investors have in this country and the leadership of President Hakainde Hichilema. So far, the President has done very well in terms of ensuring that the mines are up and running, instead of spending time in courts. He has continuously said, “We are not going to spend time in court. We cannot mine in court. We need to resolve outstanding issues in the mining sector. Once those issues are resolved, we will then be able to move forward.” The President has lived by his words by ensuring that the mines are up and running. As we are talking, the Konkola Copper Mines (KCM) and Mopani Copper Mines are operational.

Mr Mabeta: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, this clearly indicates that there is something that is being done right. Contrary to the naysayers and doomsayers, what is happening right now is unprecedented. For example, we have seen the recent employment of teachers, doctors and nurses. Employment levels had shrunk in all sectors, but today our citizens are getting jobs. People are getting jobs as teachers, nurses or soldiers to serve their country. There are many youths getting the opportunity to serve their country as men and women in uniform. This is not out of nowhere. It is because someone in the name of President of the Republic of Zambia is putting up consented efforts. The United Party for National Development’s (UPND’s) New Dawn Government is putting everything together and ensuring that we have an organised country today.

Madam Speaker, the international community had lost confidence in this country. Investor confidence in Zambia had weaned because of defaulting on foreign debt in 2020. Today, however, that confidence has been restored. Direct foreign investment (FDI) is coming into this country in billions. That is a clear indication of leadership that we should all support. It is this leadership that has reset, or in the President’s words, re-jigged the economy. This means that he has reset the economy on the path to recovery. It is being reconstructed for the benefit of our people.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, this has not come about as an accident, but due to planning and a strong culture of prudence. It is because somebody is credible enough to manage the resources of this country and ensure that benefits accrue to our people.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mufalali: Madam Speaker, our economy will continue growing. As much as we have challenges right now due to climate change, not all is dark. As the saying goes, “It is darkest before the dawn”. All things being equal, our economy will definitely improve and our people will no longer experience shortages of energy and food. In the President’s own words, “No one will go hungry”. Our people out there must know that he means business when says that no one will go hungry. Various mitigation measures have been put in place to ensure that food is provided for our people. Many challenges are being addressed, including the issue of water supply. Our people out there can be rest assured that they will soon have all that is needed.

Madam Speaker, I am really grateful for giving me an opportunity to debate the President’s Address to the nation.

 

Madam Speaker, I thank you so much.

 

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

 

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, the debate on the Motion of Thanks continues tomorrow. Please, can we prepare ourselves so that we utilise the remaining days we have for this Motion.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

ADJOURNMENT

The Vice-President (Mrs Nalumango): Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.

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The House adjourned at 1632 hours until 1430 hours on Wednesday, 18^th September, 2024.

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WRITTEN REPLY TO QUESTION

DAM REHABILITATION PLANS FOR MAPATIZYA CONSTITUENCY

4. Ms Munashabantu (Mapatizya) asked the Minister of Water Development and Sanitation:

1. whether the Government has any plans to rehabilitate the following dams in Mapatizya Parliamentary Constituency:

1. Kayuni;
2. Chuundwe;
3. Chalimongela;
4. Ngobe;
5. Baswene;
6. Mubiyana;
7. Chalinga;
8. Mbwiko;
9. Muziya;
10. Safari;
11. Jingainga; and 
12. Kalimabukede; 

1. if so, when the plans will be implemented; and

1. if there are no such plans, why.

The Minister of Water Development and Sanitation (Eng. Nzovu): Madam Speaker, the Government, under the Ministry of Water Development and Sanitation, has plans to rehabilitate small dams across the country, through the Department of Water Resources and Development, to ensure availability of water resources for socio-economic development. The said dams in Mapatizya Parliamentary Constituency are among those to be rehabilitated. This is an ongoing program and will continue.

Madam Speaker, the plans to rehabilitate the said dams will be implemented as soon as detailed feasibility studies are undertaken and funds are made available for rehabilitation.

Madam Speaker, as alluded to above, the Government has plans to rehabilitate the mentioned dams in Mapatizya Constituency.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.