Thursday, 9^th April, 2026

The House met at 1430 hours

[MR SECOND DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

NATIONAL ANTHEM

PRAYER

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ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR SECOND DEPUTY SPEAKER

PUPILS AND TEACHERS FROM SACRED HEART SECONDARY SCHOOL

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of pupils and teachers from Sacred Heart Secondary School in Lusaka District.

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors into our midst.

Thank you.

PUPILS AND TEACHERS FROM TWITTI PRIMARY SCHOOL

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of pupils and teachers from Twitti Primary School in Lusaka District.

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome the visitors into our midst.

Thank you. 

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URGENT MATTERS WITHOUT NOTICE

MR KANG’OMBE, HON. MEMBER FOR KAMFINSA, ON HER HONOUR THE VICE-PRESIDENT, DR NALUMANGO, ON THE OLD SEWER NETWORK IN NDEKE 

Mr Kang’ombe (Kamfinsa): On an Urgent Matter without Notice, Mr Speaker.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: An Urgent Matter without Notice is raised.

Mr Kang’ombe: Mr Speaker, the privilege and honour is mine to direct an Urgent Matter without Notice to the hon. Minister responsible for water and sanitation. I cannot see Eng. Nzovu in the House, so I wish to direct the matter to Her Honour the Vice-President.

Mr Speaker, we have a challenge with the old sewer network in our constituency. The area called Old Ndeke, Ndeke Changa Changa and part of the area in Misenshi have an old sewer network that has collapsed. We do not want to reach a stage where we have to wait for the President to direct the respective Government departments to attend to this matter. I, therefore, wish to direct this matter to Her Honour the Vice-President. The people of Kamfinsa in Old Ndeke, Ndeke and Ndeke Changa Changa want some urgent relief. I am aware that this matter has been presented to Nkana Water and Sanitation Company Limited (NWSC). We have discussed with the local leadership from the utility company to attempt to resolve this problem. However, because of the scale of the problem, we obviously need the Central Government to supplement the efforts. We have seen what has happened at the University of Zambia (UNZA). The local resources were not enough, and so, the Government had to come in at a higher level. We do not want to wait for His Excellency to start issuing instructions.

 Mr Speaker, I seek your serious indulgence. Is the Government in order to not supplement the efforts we are making to resolve the problem? If it were a water problem, we would just buy small pipes to replace the old ones, and we would have quickly provided water to our people. However, the sewer project has a huge cost. So, we urgently need the intervention of the Government. This is an active problem that needs the attention of Her Honour the Vice-President.

Mr Speaker, I seek your indulgence.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Thank you very much. Your matter does not qualify as an Urgent Matter without Notice. However, you can engage the hon. Minister or file an urgent question. I am sure the hon. Minister will be able to attend to your concerns.

MR J. CHIBUYE, HON. MEMBER FOR ROAN, ON HER HONOUR THE VICE-PRESIDENT, DR NALUMANGO, ON THE TWENTY-FOUR-HOUR ECONOMY

Mr J. Chibuye (Roan): On Urgent Matter without Notice, Mr Speaker.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: An Urgent Matter without Notice is raised.

Mr J. Chibuye: Thank you very much, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity to raise an Urgent Matter without Notice, directed to Her Honour the Vice-President, the Leader of Government Business in the House. Your Honour the Vice President, greetings.

Mr Speaker, recently, the Cabinet announced through the Government Chief Spokesperson that the Government is going to establish a twenty-four-hour economy. Citizens have many different interpretations of this. Some are saying this implies that the ban on buses moving at night will be lifted so that buses can resume moving at night. Trucks were also banned from moving at night, but now, they will resume doing that. People have different interpretations.

Mr Speaker, the twenty-four-hour economy actually borders on the issue of security. Is Her Honour the Vice-President in order to not come to this House to correctly inform the citizenry what the twenty-four-hour economy means? Some are saying that people can now loiter without being arrested. They want to put the law aside because of this pronouncement. Others are saying they can sell vitumbuwa and all sorts of merchandise throughout the night and at midnight.

Mr Speaker, I need your indulgence. Could Her Honour the Vice-President correctly explain the position on the twenty-four-hour economy? Does it mean that some laws will be negated to allow for the twenty-four-hour economy? Or should the law be enforced regarding loitering at night?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Similarly, that matter does not qualify. What you can do is file in a question. I am sure that the relevant hon. Minister, maybe, the hon. Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry, will be able to address the issue.

Thank you.

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BILLS

FIRST READING

THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Green Economy and Environment (Mr Mposha): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Environmental Management (Amendment) Bill, 2026. The objects of this Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Environmental Management Agency; and
2.  provide matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Legislation and International Agreement. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE NATIONAL HERITAGE CONSERVATION COMMISSION (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.) (on behalf of the Minister of Tourism (Mr Sikumba)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill titled the National Heritage Conservation Commission (Amendment) Bill, 2026. The objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the National Heritage Conservation Commission; and
2.  provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Legislation and International Agreement. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Education (Mr Syakalima) (on behalf of the Minister of Justice (Ms Kasune)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Human Rights Commission (Amendment) Bill, National Assembly Bill, 2026. The objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Human Rights Commission, and
2. provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Legal Affairs, Human Rights and Governance. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE MARKETS AND BUS STATIONS BILL, 2026

The Minister of Technology and Science (Mr Mutati) (on behalf of the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development (Mr Sialubalo)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Markets and Bus Stations Bill, 2026. The objects of this Bill are to: 

1. revise the composition of a management board; and
2.  provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Local Governance, Housing and Chiefs' Affairs. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE NATIONAL ROAD FUND (Amendment) BILL, 2026

The Minister of Finance and National Planning (Dr Musokotwane): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the National Road Fund Amendment Bill, 2026. The objects of this Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the National Road Fund Agency; and
2.  provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing. 

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Government Assurances. The Committee is required to submit its report on the bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE AGRICULTURAL LANDS (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Lands and Natural Resources (Mrs Masebo): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a bill entitled the Agricultural Lands Amendment Bill, 2026. The objects of this Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Agricultural Lands Board; and
2. provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Agriculture, Lands, and Natural Resources. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

I thank you.

THE MINERALS REGULATION COMMISSION (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Mines and Minerals Development (Mr Kabuswe): Mr. Speaker, I beg to present a bill titled the Minerals Regulation Commission Amendment Bill, 2026. The objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the board of the Minerals and Regulation Commission; and
2. provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to submit on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE NATIONAL HOUSING AUTHORITY (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Lands and Natural Resources (Mrs Masebo) (on behalf of the Minister of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development (Eng. Milupi)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the National Housing Authority (Amendment) Bill, 2026. The objects of this Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the National Housing Authority;
2.  provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Local Governance, Housing and Chiefs Affairs. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to submit on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE NATIONAL HOUSING AUTHORITY (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Transport and Logistics (Mr Tayali) (on behalf of the Minister of Small and Medium Enterprises Development (Mr Mufunelo)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Citizens' Economic Empowerment Amendment Bill, 2026. The objects of this bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Citizens' Economic Empowerment Commission, and
2. provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on National Economy, Trade, and Labour Matters. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course. Hon. Members who wish to submit on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

 

Thank you.

THE COFFEE (Amendment) BILL, 2026

The Minister of Agriculture (Mr Mtolo): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Coffee (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Coffee Board of Zambia; and
2. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Agriculture, Lands and Natural Resources. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course.

Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE ENERGY REGULATION (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Education (Mr Syakalima) (on behalf of the Minister of Energy (Mr Chikote)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Energy Regulation (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to:                                          

1. revise the composition of the Board of the Energy Regulation Board (ERB); and
2. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Legislation and International Agreements. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course.

Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE FOOD AND NUTRITION (Amendment) Bill, 2026

Mr Mtolo (on behalf of the Minister of Health (Mr Katakwe)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the National HIV/AIDS/STI/TB Council (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Minister!

That is the wrong script.

Mr Katakwe entered the Assembly Chamber.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Maybe, help me. Give the substantive hon. Minister, as he is now around.

Mr Mtolo: Ah, he has come.

Mr Katakwe: Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Food and Nutrition (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Board of the National Food and Nutrition Commission; and
2. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Health, Community Development and Social Services. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course.

Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE COMPETITION AND CONSUMER PROTECTION (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation (Mr Haimbe, SC.) (on behalf of the Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry (Mr Chipoka Mulenga)): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Competition and Consumer Protection (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the Board of the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission; and
2. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course.

Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE BIOSAFETY (Amendment) Bill, 2026

The Minister of Green Economy and Environment (Mr Mposha): Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the Biosafety (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the National Biosafety Authority; and
2. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Education, Science and Technology. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course.

Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

THE NATIONAL HIV/AIDS/STI/TB COUNCIL (Amendment) Bill, 2026

Mr Katakwe: Mr Speaker, I beg to present a Bill entitled the National HIV/AIDS/STI/TB Council (Amendment) Bill, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to:

1. revise the composition of the National HIV/AIDS/STI/TB Council; and
2. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The Bill stands referred to the Committee on Health, Community Development and Social Services. The Committee is required to submit its report on the Bill to the House in due course.

Hon. Members who wish to make submissions on the Bill are free to do so within the programme of work of the Committee.

Thank you.

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QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS UNDER THE REHABILITATION AND MAINTENANCE OF URBAN ROADS PROJECT IN CHINSALI

290. Mr Mukosa (Chinsali) asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development:

1. how many kilometres of roads are earmarked for construction under the Rehabilitation and Maintenance of Urban Roads Project in Chinsali District;
2. how many kilometres had been constructed as of September 2025; and
3. when the project will be implemented.

The Minister of Technology and Science (Mr Mutati) (on behalf of the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development (Mr Sialubalo)): Mr Speaker, the Government earmarked the rehabilitation and upgrade to bituminous standard of 29.5 km of urban roads in Chinsali District.

Mr Speaker, at the time the contract was closed in 2022, the initial 29.5 km of road network was completed. However, the request for a variation order by the local authority for additional roads was not approved due to budgetary constraints.

Mr Speaker, once funds are made available, the ministry will consider working on the additional roads that were requested for by the local authority.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Mukosa: Mr Speaker, I thank the hon. Minister for that answer. However, I would like to seek clarification. The hon. Minister said that 25.9 km of the road network was completed. To the best of my knowledge, which is based on the information that I got from both the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development and the Road Development Agency (RDA), the kilometres that have been worked on are about 10 to 11 km. So, where is the other 15 km, which the hon. Minister says that it has been worked on in Chinsali, which is the upgrading the road to bituminous standard?

Mr Mutati: Mr Speaker, the information I have indicates that 25.9 km of that road network has been completed. However, we may have to verify and inform the hon. Member of Parliament for Chinsali, if that is not the correct distance.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Mr Mukosa: Mr Speaker, I think, I will go and sit with the hon. Minister at the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development so that we can look at the schedule of stretches that have been upgraded and reconcile the position. That will help me know exactly which roads have been upgraded in Chinsali and see whether they reach the 25.9 km that the hon. Minister has stated.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Thank you.

The next question is from the hon. Member for Lunte.

Interruptions

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Seeing that he is not in the House, Question No. 291 lapses.

CONSTRUCTION OF THE KALABO/KALONGOLA ROAD

292. Mr Miyutu (Kalabo Central) asked the Minister of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development:

1. whether the Government has any plans to construct the Kalabo/Kalongola Road in Kalabo District;
2. if so, when the plans will be implemented;
3. if there are no such plans, why; and
4. whether there are any measures to make the road motorable in the interim.

The Minister of Lands and Natural Resources (Mrs Masebo) (on behalf of the Minister of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development (Eng. Milupi)): Mr Speaker, the Government has plans to construct the Kalabo/Kalongola Road in Kalabo District.

Mr Speaker, plans will be implemented once funds have been made available for the project.

Mr Speaker, as stated above, the Government has plans to construct the Kalabo/Kalongola Road in Kalabo District.

Mr Speaker, the Government, through the Road Development Agency (RDA), will this quarter undertake an assessment of the road with a view to determining the required works.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Any follow-up question, hon. Member for Kalabo?

Mr Miyutu indicated dissent.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Okay, we make progress.

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MOTIONS

REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, WATER DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM ON THE REVIEW OF THE HUMAN WILDLIFE CONFLICT IN GAME MANAGEMENT AREAS

Silence

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: What is happening today?

Laughter

Mrs Chonya (Kafue): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that this House adopts the Report of the Committee on Energy, Water Development and Tourism on the Review of the Human/Wildlife Conflict in Game Management Areas, for the Fifth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 7^th April, 2026.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Is the Motion seconded?

Eng. Mabenga (Mulobezi): Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.

Mrs Chonya: Mr Speaker, in line with its terms of reference, the Committee considered a topical issue on human/wildlife conflict in game management areas (GMAs). In carrying out this important task, the Committee sought both written and oral submissions from various stakeholders.

Mr Speaker, let me state from the outset that human/wildlife conflict is no longer an isolated environmental issue, but a national socio-economic and security concern that directly affects human life, food security, rural development and the sustainability of wildlife resources, especially in GMAs. I just came from the Lower Zambezi in Chiawa, where this is a real issue tormenting our people there, as it does elsewhere.

Mr Speaker, incidences of human/wildlife conflict have, over the years, been increasing with an annual average of eighty-four people killed and ninety-two injured between 2016 and 2024. It is even more worrisome to note that in 2025, the Ministry of Tourism recorded 16,512 incidents resulting in 127 deaths and 123 injuries, surpassing previous annual averages, a situation that is of great concern.

Mr Speaker, the primary drivers of human/wildlife conflict include, among others, unplanned human encroachment into GMAs, obstruction of wildlife corridors, expansion of subsistence agriculture, climate-induced stress on ecosystems, mining activities in protected areas and the limited operational capacity of the Department of National Parks and Wildlife (DNPW) due to inadequate staffing and resources. The unauthorised allocation of land within GMAs and wildlife corridors by some local leaders is one issue of particular concern that requires urgent attention, as it has accelerated habitat encroachment. In this regard, the Committee recommends the introduction of stringent administrative and legal controls to prevent illegal land allocations and to strengthen traditional governance accountability.

Mr Speaker, during the Committee’s interactions, it was also observed that while the Zambia Wildlife Act No. 14 of 2015 and the National Parks and Wildlife Policy of 2018 provide a legal basis for wildlife management and community participation, the current framework is predominantly reactive in nature. It does not adequately provide for structured prevention mechanisms, mandatory land-use planning, early warning systems or statutory relief for losses arising from human/wildlife conflict.

Mr Speaker, notwithstanding the above, the Committee notes the existence of mitigation interventions, including community-based natural resource management structures, problem animal control measures, deterrent technologies and public awareness initiatives. However, the continued increase in conflict incidences indicates that these measures are insufficient in scale co-ordination and sustainability. In this regard, the Committee recommends targeted legislative reforms, including amendments to the Zambia Wildlife Act to provide for mandatory relief and consolation mechanisms, enforceable land-use planning provisions and the integration of climate-resilience measures. The Committee further recommends enhanced budgetary support to the DNPW, the recruitment of additional wildlife police officers and investment in modern wildlife monitoring and early warning technologies.

Lastly, Mr Speaker, the Committee underscores that human/wildlife conflict constitutes a cross-cutting policy challenge that requires integrated interventions across conservation, land management, climate adaptation and rural development sectors. Addressing it effectively is essential for safeguarding human welfare while sustaining Zambia’s wildlife heritage.

As I conclude, Mr Speaker, allow me to render my sincere gratitude to you and the Office of the Clerk of the National Assembly for the services rendered to the Committee throughout its deliberations. Gratitude is also extended to all stakeholders who provided the Committee with invaluable information which formed the basis of this report before the House today.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Does the seconder wish to speak now or later?

Eng. Mabenga: Now, Mr Speaker.

Thank you very much, Mr Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to second the Motion on the Floor, on behalf of the good people of Mulobezi. I would like to thank the mover of the Motion for having articulated it very well. This Motion is not new on this Floor; it has been debated here several times.

Mr Speaker, human-wildlife conflict has been there for many years. It is still there, and it is still going to be there in the near future. Therefore, it is our duty, as hon. Members of Parliament, to find a solution to the issue. Since hon. Members have read the report, I am just going to comment on three items, namely sensitisation of communities, inadequate staffing for wildlife management and the creation of a wildlife fund.

Mr Speaker, it is our duty to disseminate information to the people. We need to sensitise the people on the need to avoid provoking elephants. Sometimes, when people see elephants, they start teasing them and throwing stones at them. It is our duty to educate communities that doing that is dangerous. We can use television, radio, meetings and all sorts of means available at our disposal to sensitise the people so that we have a permanent solution. This issue will never end if we do not come up with a tangible solution. We need to sensitise the people that they should avoid encroaching on Game Management Areas (GMAs). For example, people have encroached on land in the Kafue National Park. So, it is our duty to educate our people to avoid encroaching on or building in animal corridors. When animals come back, they destroy the houses.

Mr Speaker, we also need to educate the people on techniques like chili fences, electricity and lighting used to keep animals away. It is our duty to do so. We also need to teach people how to use noise to chase away animals.

The next comment, Mr Speaker, is on inadequate staff to look after wildlife issues. We have been told that the Ministry of Tourism needs to recruit about 400 officers. However, due to financial constraints, it is not possible to recruit 400 people at the same time. My request is that these people should be recruited in a phased manner. We need to have adequate staff for wildlife management because if we do not, it will be difficult to manage animals. Once wildlife officers are employed, we also need to look at mobility. At the moment, transport for wildlife officers is a challenge. For instance, Mulobezi has only one vehicle for wildlife officers, and this vehicle has to cover several kilometres each day to police the place. Transport for wildlife officers should be provided by the Government. The districts that are affected by human-wildlife conflicts can come up with a plan to use the Constituency Development Fund (CDF) so that that they can have transport.

Mr Speaker, let us not forget about accommodation. Officers need accommodation and comfort.

Mr Speaker, the creation of a wildlife fund will help victims of animal attacks to be compensated, At the moment, when elephants eat crops or kill someone, there is no compensation whatsoever for the people affected. So, it is a loss to the nation. We need to create a wildlife fund through the Government, non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and people who own cattle. They could be requested to pay a small tourism levy. That is the money we need to put together, so that people who come in conflict with wildlife can be compensated. At the moment, there is no compensation. We also need to look at insurance for crops. When crops are destroyed by wildlife, insurance should pay for the crops.

Finally, I would like to thank the Speaker of the National Assembly for the valuable information and support that has been given to us.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Mung’andu (Chama South): Mr Speaker, human-animal conflict is a very emotive issue for those of us who are seriously affected by this problem. The report has indicated that in some instances, there is encroachment of human beings on wildlife corridors or habitats. That might be true, but in Chama, where I come from, that is not the correct position. The nation is aware that Chama District is a Game Management Area (GMA). From time in memorial, we have lived with wild animals in harmony. However, in the recent past, because of the good conservation programmes which the Government has implemented through its partners like Frankfurt Zoological Society, the number of elephants has increased exponentially, hence the gazetted animal habitats, including the GMAs, have become small for the animals. Let me demonstrate this. I am aware that the Hon. Speaker knows Chama extremely well because he was at Chama Boarding School. I am sure that Chama Boarding School is very happy to have produced a Speaker like him. He is aware that animals are in areas like Chikwa and Mapamba in Chifunda. That is understood. I want to inform him that elephants are now right at Chama Central Business District (CDB). People in Mundabanga are not sleeping. Tembwe, Bbuli and Chitukula are areas which never used to see elephants, but now, they have the serious challenge of human-animal conflict.

Mr Speaker, we are not only experiencing loss of lives but also livelihoods. No matter how hard-working our people can be to produce groundnuts, maize and many other crops, they still lose their crops to elephants.

Mr Speaker, there is a woman in Mpondo area, who was badly injured by an elephant. She is currently admitted to Mpika District Hospital and she has not received any help because the law does not support that.  So, I agree with the seconder of the Motion. We need to immediately amend the Wildlife Act. I know that this Parliament will be dissolving in the next few weeks but I urge the Acting hon. Minister of Tourism to consider amending the Wildlife Act. I suggest that it includes compensation.

Mr Speaker, in areas like Mundalanga, people are losing their crops and yet a few metres away, there is a wildlife camp. What are those Wildlife Police Officers doing? The issue of having a few Wildlife Police Officers to some extent may not be true. Mr Speaker, instead of patrolling, they will be sleeping while others are enjoying themselves at a nearest drinking places. So, there is a need for us to immediately change the laws. Where a life is lost to an elephant or a buffalo, people should be compensated. The worst part is where crops are affected.  We know that in most Game Management Areas (GMAs), our people's economic activity is 100 per cent dependent on farming.

Mr Speaker, yes, intervention measures have been put in place. In Mapamba, we have managed to put up a wire fence. We also have co-operating partners who have come on board to help in Vilimukulu Ward. Nevertheless, that is not enough. The best solution is for this Parliament to amend the Wildlife Act to introduce compensatory measures for victims. This is a real problem because it is happening almost on a daily basis.

Mr Speaker, in the last two weeks, we have lost two lives to elephants in my constituency. A month rarely passes without losing a life. The opposite is true in terms of reaction. When the Wildlife Police Officers receive a report that a citizen has killed a rabbit, not even an impala, they overcome all the obstacles that would block them from reaching that particular person. How come they do not respond as quickly as they do when it comes to human/animal conflict?

Mr Speaker, in supporting this Motion, I would like to urge the hon. Minister of Tourism to quickly bring an amendment to the Wildlife Act so that our people can be compensated in case something happens to them.

Mr Speaker, with these few remarks, I wish to support your report.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

The Minister of Education (Mr Syakalima) (on behalf of the Minister of Tourism (Mr Sikumba)): Mr Speaker, I would like to thank you for granting me this opportunity to contribute to the recommendations made by your Committee.

Mr Speaker, as the ministry responsible for wildlife management, we shall treat these recommendations with the seriousness they deserve. As you may be aware, I have on several occasions, presented detailed Ministerial Statements on the Floor of this House regarding human/wildlife conflict, which has become a significant and growing conservation challenge globally, particularly in Zambia.

As alluded to in your report, the major causes of human/wildlife conflict include; population growth, habitat loss and encroachment, climate and environmental factors and agriculture expansion and resource competition, among other factors.

Mr Speaker, allow me to briefly comment on some of the recommendations proposed by your Committee. From the outset, I wish to state that the Wildlife Act No. 14 of 2015, provides a solid foundation for wildlife conservation and management. However, it does not adequately address the current scale, complexity and frequency of human/wildlife conflict. One of the gaps identified in the Act is that it is silent on formal conservation mechanisms for families who suffer loss of lives, injury, damage to property, and crops or livestock.

Mr Speaker, I wish to report to this august House that the Act is currently under review. To this effect, the Draft Zambia Wildlife Unprotected Areas Bill has been developed, which incorporates a provision for the establishment of a human/wildlife conflict relief scheme. This scheme will provide relief in cases of injury, damage to property or livestock, and will offer consolation in the event of death caused by wildlife. It is my sincere and earnest appeal that once the Bill is presented before this august House, hon. Members will lend it their full support.

Mr Speaker, in an effort to mitigate the human/wildlife conflict in Game Management Areas (GMAs), my ministry will continue implementing the following measures:

1. invest in modern wildlife surveillance and monitoring systems, reliable patrol vehicles, capture equipment to enable real-time situational awareness and rapid deployment;
2. strengthen national and district land-use planning so that there is a coordinated, one-Government approach to land-use planning;
3. promote livelihood diversification, including beekeeping, conservation, agriculture, ecotourism, and value addition to natural resources to reduce dependency on high-risk activities and build community resilience; and
4. enhance community education on wildlife, develop and implement educational programmes targeted at members of the public on the ethics of human-wildlife conflict, and to ensure public safety. This initiative also targets schools, especially those in hotspot areas.

Mr Speaker, as I conclude, I wish to reemphasise that human/wildlife conflict situation in Zambia is increasing due to demographic growth, environmental pressures, habitat loss and limited institutional capacity. With strengthened legal frameworks, improved equipment, enhanced land-use planning and predictable financing mechanisms, Zambia can enforce a long-term coexistence between communities and wildlife that will provide a platform for both wildlife and humans to peacefully thrive.

 Mr Speaker, I thank you.

The Minister of Green Economy and Environment (Mr Mposha): Mr Speaker, I wish to thank you again for according me this opportunity to comment on the Motion before this august House, regarding the report of the Committee on Energy, Water Development and Tourism on the Review of Human/Wildlife Conflict in Game Management Areas for the Fifth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly, laid on the Table of this House on Tuesday, 7^th April, 2026.

Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Water Development and Sanitation recognises the serious impact that human/wildlife conflict has in and around Game Management Areas (GMAs). This challenge does not only threaten livelihoods, but also affects access to safe water, sanitation, infrastructure and the sustainability of rural development interventions.

Mr Speaker, in many cases, communities come across damaged water points, constrained access routes and increased pressure on the natural resources that support both human and wildlife populations.  This report is, therefore, of great importance, as it cuts across various sectors and speaks to our collective quest to promote human well-being, advance sustainable development, attract investment and safeguard our natural resources. Human-wildlife conflict in game management areas (GMAs) has continued to increase due to factors such as the expansion of human settlements into wildlife habitats, climate change and environmental degradation. These challenges have destroyed crops, caused the loss of livestock, human injuries and fatalities, as well as increased pressure on water sources. They have also affected wildlife, disrupted habitats, forced animals to move and, in some cases, reduced the numbers of certain species.

Consequently, the conflicts undermine food security, disrupt ecosystems and contribute to negative attitudes towards wildlife conservation. The report rightly highlights the need for co-ordinated and practical solutions that balance conservation with community welfare. As the Government, we support the view that the sustainable management of GMAs must place people at the centre while also protecting Zambia’s rich wildlife heritage. This requires stronger collaboration among sector ministries, traditional leaders, the Department of National Parks and Wildlife (DNPW), local authorities and, indeed, affected communities.

Mr Speaker, from the perspective of water development and sanitation, the scarcity of water resources, particularly during the dry season, has further heightened competition between humans and wildlife, thereby, escalating conflicts. In many instances, reduced access to water sources for wildlife has forced animals to encroach on human settlements in search of water, worsening the situation in various habitats. The ministry believes that improved planning of water infrastructure in conflict-prone areas can help reduce tensions and support co-existence. Reliable access to safe water and sanitation services reduces pressure on shared resources and minimises the need for communities to venture into wildlife areas in search of water.

 It is, therefore, important that water and sanitation planning in GMAs is integrated into broader land use, natural resource management and conservation frameworks. Therefore, there is a need to strengthen natural resource management systems and promote sustainable environmental practices that address the root causes of human-wildlife conflict, particularly in relation to water resource conservation. Further, efforts should be made to strengthen early warning systems, implement effective conflict mitigation measures, such as fencing, and improve co-ordination among relevant Government agencies. At the same time, building strong partnerships between the Government, the private sector and local communities is essential in creating an enabling environment for both local and international investment.

Mr Speaker, GMAs play a critical role in safeguarding natural resources for future generations. In this regard, my ministry supports community-based approaches that promote local ownership and encourage active participation in addressing conflict hotspots. Additionally, investment in climate-resilient water infrastructure, catchment protection and the environmentally sensitive siting of water points is essential in enhancing human well-being while ensuring the protection and sustainability of ecosystems. The House may wish to note that the ministry has commenced the drilling of fifteen boreholes in GMAs in the Western Province, the Eastern Province, the Southern Province, Central Province and Lusaka Province.

Mr Speaker, as I conclude, I wish to reiterate the importance of addressing human-wildlife conflict holistically and sustainably while, at the same time, harnessing the vast investment opportunities within Zambia’s GMAs. Therefore, recommendations contained in this report provide a practical and balanced approach to safeguarding livelihoods, promoting conservation and enhancing sustainable economic growth. The ministry welcomes the Committee’s report, and its recommendations, and stands ready to work with other stakeholders to ensure that interventions in GMAs are inclusive, sustainable and responsive to the needs of our people.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

 Ms Chonya: Mr Speaker, in winding up the debate, I would like to thank all the hon. Members who have debated and supported the Motion to adopt the report. I note that we have raised common issues in terms of the recommendations, on what needs to be done. Therefore, the people responsible for implementation will need to look into the various recommendations, and realise them to address this phenomenon, which, indeed, has been a challenge for our people.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.   

Question put and agreed to.

REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION AND INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS ON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS FOR 2025

Mr Mutale (Chitambo): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that this House adopts the Report of the Committee on Legislation and International Agreements for the Fifth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly laid on the Table of the House on 7^th April, 2026.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Is the Motion seconded?

 Mr Charles Mulenga (Kwacha): Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.

Mr Mutale: Mr Speaker, during the year under review, the Committee considered fifty-two Statutory Instruments (SIs) issued by different Government ministries and agencies, and the Action-Taken Report of the Committee for the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly. I will, therefore, highlight a few issues considered by the Committee in the course of its deliberations.

Mr Speaker, regarding the SI issued in 2025, the Committee observes with concern the continued lack of sensitisation and awareness among the general public regarding the various SIs gazetted annually. This results in sector players and the general public not fully accessing the benefits accruing under the issued regulations. In this regard, the Committee urges the Government to enhance awareness creation with regard to the issued SIs in order to promote beneficiation to the general public.

Mr Speaker, the Committee observes that in line with its policy, the Government seeks to leverage the private sector for investment in infrastructure, such as roads. In this vein, the Government has issued various pieces of subsidiary legislation. However, the Committee bemoans the poor revenue-sharing mechanisms and poor implementation of public –

Interruptions

 Mr Mutale: Mr Speaker, I know we had gone somewhere else.

Laughter

Mr Mutale: As you might be aware, Mr Speaker, our Committee clerk is in Livingstone. So, I have to apologise to the House for the interruption on behalf of the Clerks at the Table. However, let me start again.

Mr Speaker, during the year under review, the Committee considered a total of fifty-two SIs issued by different Government ministries and agencies, and the action-taken reports on the reports of the Committee for the Fourth Session of the Thirteenth National Assembly. I will, therefore, highlight a few issues considered by the Committee in the course of its deliberations.

Mr Speaker, regarding the SI issued in 2025, the Committee observes with concern the continued lack of sensitisation and awareness among the general public regarding the various ISs gazetted annually. This results in sector players and the general public not fully accessing the benefits accruing under the issued regulations. In this regard, the Committee urges the Government to enhance awareness creation with regard to the issued SI in order to promote beneficiation to the general public.

Mr Speaker, your Committee observes that in line with its policy, the Government seeks to leverage the private sector for investment in infrastructure such as roads. In this vein, the Government has issued various pieces of subsidiary legislation. However, the Committee bemoans the poor revenue-sharing mechanisms and poor implementation of public-private partnership (PPP) projects such as roads. In this regard, the Committee recommends negotiation of a better revenue-sharing mechanism with concessionaires. In addition, the Committee urges the Government to ensure that PPP projects, such as roads, are of the right quality, price and built on time.

 Mr Speaker, the Committee also considered Statutory Instrument No. 44 of 2025, the Legal Practitioners Continuation Professional Development Rules, 2025, which was issued pursuant to Section 90 of the Legal Practitioners Act, Chapter 30 of the Laws of Zambia, so as to set out a framework for the implementation, monitoring and enforcement of continuing professional development (CPD) and obligations among legal practitioners in Zambia. The rules are part of a broader regulatory regime governing legal practitioners in relation to admission, discipline and practicing certificates, among others.

Mr Speaker, the Committee observes that the introduction of CPD among legal practitioners is well-intended. However, while noting that the SI was duly issued, the Committee observes with concern that the regulation attached to renewal of legal practitioner certificates to undertaking CPD is in violation of Order No. 204(2) of the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024, which provides that the SI should be issued in accordance with the Constitution, not to trespass unduly on personal rights and liberties, not to make the rights and liberties of citizens depend on administrative decisions and be concerned only with administrative detail and not amount to substantive legislation. In this regard, the Committee recommends the revocation of the SI so as to address the concerns.

In conclusion, Mr Speaker, I would like to thank your office and that of the Clerk of the National Assembly for the support rendered throughout the session. I would also like to thank all the Government institutions that availed themselves during the meeting and provided written memoranda, which the Committee relied on.

With these few remarks, Mr Speaker, I beg to move.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Does the seconder wish to speak now or later?

Mr Charles Mulenga: Now, Mr Speaker.

Thank you, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity given to second the Motion that has been moved by Hon. Remember Mutale.

Mr Speaker, in seconding the Motion, let me, first and foremost, give appreciation to the Hon. Madam Speaker, who allowed us as a Committee to have tabled quite a number of Statutory Instruments (SI) and also to have undertaken tours, both local and foreign. However, I will restrict myself to just three important elements that I picked out in the report.

Mr Speaker, the first is Statutory Instrument No. 41, which looks at geological surveys and mineral development. This SI is very important and the first of its kind in this Republic. The Government, under the Leadership of His Excellency, President Hakainde Hichilema, through the hon. Minister responsible for mineral development and mining, had to design this particular SI, which aims, among other things, to enable the carrying out of geological surveys. We have also seen mapping and exploration of minerals across the country. Zambians are quite happy with what is happening because they will know the minerals in all parts of the country. This SI is also aimed at creating an artisanal and small-scale mining fund to promote the development of the artisanal and small-scale mining subsector. It is important to note that this country has a number of young people who want to engage in mining activities. If a systematic way of registering for artisanal mining is established, it will help young people to do what is right and earn a living from small-scale mining.

Mr Speaker, the SI also looks at promotion of the local content. That is very important because it provides for value addition and beneficiation.

Mr Speaker, we also looked at the enhancement of environmental and social governance principles in mining operations. The commencement of this Act will facilitate the formalisation of the artisanal and small-scale mining subsector and ensure improved management of geological data and mineral resources. We call upon the Government to ensure that the Minerals Regulation Commission is operationalised to help oversee the management, compliance and sustainable development of the mining sector.

Mr Speaker, another issue of interest to the Committee was the SI on toll plazas, which gave rise to the Tolls (Amendment) Regulations, 2025. The toll gates dotted across the country are a source of revenue for the Government. We all know that we need that money to be ploughed back into rehabilitating the road infrastructure across the country. We appreciate the Government for establishing new toll points, such as the Abraham Mokola Toll Plaza, the toll plaza in Kasumbalesa and many others that have been opened because they will widen the resource base in the country.

Mr Speaker, many Zambians are appealing to the Government to ensure that the roads constructed through the public-private partnership (PPP) model are of good quality. Reports have been recorded in certain parts of the country that even before reaching the halfway mark of the year, some roads that have been built have started cracking. So, it is important that the independent consultants who are engaged do a thorough job. They should ensure that road works are monitored in a professional manner. We need roads that can stand the test of time.

Mr Speaker, it is also important for the Ministry of Finance and National Planning to undertake certain assignments, especially the appointment of the Revenue Appeals Tribunal. This tribunal has not been in place since 2021 after its mandate expired. It is important for the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning to quickly appoint the Revenue Appeals Tribunal. We should have this important tribunal in place as we sign protocols in Africa.

Mr Speaker, with those few words, I second this important Motion.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr B. Mpundu (Nkana): Mr Speaker, the Committee on Legislation and International Agreements has reported that it interrogated fifty-two Statutory Instruments (SIs). Among the SIs it interrogated are those that facilitate the implementation of Government projects through a system called public-private partnerships (PPPs).

Mr Speaker, you have the lamentations of the Committee. The Committee observed that there is a poor revenue-sharing mechanism on the toll plazas built on roads constructed under PPPs. The other lamentation from the Committee is poor performance in projects, particularly roads. The third lamentation is the timing of projects. I want to mention that the PPP concept is very good because it enables the Government to undertake public infrastructure development when the resource envelope is thin. However, the question that arises now is: How are we implementing PPP projects? I will cite a few examples. I am aware of projects being undertaken. Some projects have been completed while others are underway. For instance, the Lusaka/Ndola Dual Carriageway is being undertaken using the PPP model. The excitement among the people was that this model would reduce the cost of the project. It was announced that this project was going to cost US$650 million as opposed to the US$1.2 billion it would have cost previously. Of course, the commentators forgot to announce that certain aspects of the road project would be shed from the project.

Mr Speaker, you will be interested to know that the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning issued another SI that gave the consortium constructing the Lusaka/Ndola Dual Carriageway leeway to start collecting toll fees at toll plazas along the stretch of the road. The rationale for this decision was that the monies collected would go towards rehabilitating the brownfield, which is the existing road. I have challenged the hon. Minister before, that when one travels on the road from Lusaka to Ndola, one will notice that the monies collected at the toll plazas are not, in essence, being used to maintain the existing road. The consortium is using the money to construct the road. Now, this brings the question of how we, as a people, are being duped. The SI was signed on the pretext that the money being collected by the consortium at toll plazas would go towards rehabilitating the existing road. However, in essence, there is no rehabilitation happening. The consortium is using the monies it is collecting from our toll plazas to carry out actual works. It, therefore, begs the question: Is the cost of the road going to be US$650 million as announced? Or is it going to be higher? The consortium is using the monies being collected from toll plazas. You may wish to note that under the PPP model, the consortium building the road is supposed to start collecting monies from our toll plazas once the project is completed, because there is justification to start collecting toll fees, which is that we are paying back the money that the consortium invested in the project.

Mr Speaker, my question to the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning, when he comes to address this matter is: Why are we giving that consortium the toll fees to develop the projects? We know that it will say when it spent US$650 million, when it is actually our money.

Mr Speaker, let me talk about the quality of the Masangano Road which is being done under the Public-Private Partnership (PPP). The Masangano Road joins the Ndola-Lusaka Dual Carriage Way from Luanshya. That road has got patches everywhere, six months down the line.  There is no road that is constructed using the right specification that would fail within six months.  

Mr Speaker, the Ndola/Sakanya Road started cracking three weeks after it was commissioned. The Committee has lamented over the quality of the roads that are being constructed under the PPP model. It is very evident that the roads are failing. A typical example is of the Chingola/Kasumbalesa Road. The bridge that was constructed on this particular road was washed away and that speaks to the quality of work. The revelation made by the Engineering Council of Zambia (ECZ) is that there was no engagement of an external player to inspect the road.

Mr Speaker, furthermore, when the Committee interrogated the ministry over the Chingola/Kasumbalesa Road, it was discovered that the road was handed over to a consortium who is going to operate for eighteen years.

Mr Haimbe, SC.: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

Mr B. Mpundu: So, that consortium will be collecting our money for eighteen years. The calculation of the Committee was that the consortium would recover its investment in only six years.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Member for Nkana, may you resume your seat. A point of order has been raised by the Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation.

Mr Haimbe, SC.: Mr Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity.

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order pursuant to Standing Order No. 7, which talks about relevance. It urges hon. Members to show evidence on the Floor of the House when they are debating.

Mr Speaker, we have listened attentively to the hon. Member for Nkana as he put forward theory after theory and speculation after speculation with regard to how the Public/Private Partnership (PPP) operates. Secondly, he is talking about the quality of work being poor without laying evidence on the Table to substantiate his argument. He is not even speaking fully to how the PPP projects that are concessioned to third parties operate.

For instance, he has failed to inform the nation through his debate that the concessionaire is under a duty whilst the project is still ongoing to repair all defects that are found …

Mr B. Mpundu interjected.

Mr Haimbe, SC.: Tekanya!

Laughter

Mr Haimbe, SC.: … in the project at the concessionaire’s cost. The public is not being told that where defects are found as it would happen in one or two instances in any sort of civil works, those are being addressed as and when.

Mr Speaker, is the hon. Member therefore, in order to mislead the public in the manner he is debating, and more importantly, fail to lay evidence on the Table or indeed, on the Floor?  

I seek your serious ruling, Mr Speaker.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: First of all, before I render my ruling, the hon. Member for Nkana should restrict himself to the report. Statutory Instruments (SIs) are the core business of the report. Stick to the report, hon. Member. You are veering off. Secondly, avoid making assertions that will make the public believe otherwise. Ensure that you speak with the full knowledge of what is obtaining on the ground.

So, the hon. Member for Nkana has been guided. So, proceed as guided.

Are we together, hon. Member?

Mr B. Mpundu:  Mr Speaker, we are together.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Okay. You may proceed.

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Speaker, the report before the Floor has stated the observations and recommendations of the Committee. The reports states that this Committee has observed the poor quality of the roads that are being done. That is not coming from me but the report.  The report has observed the poor quality of the roads that are being constructed using the PPP model. The issue which we have already discussed before on the Floor of the House is what has happened on the Chingola/Kasumbalesa Road. A bridge on that road fell within a year of operationalisation.

Mr Speaker, the Committee has also lamented over the poor revenue sharing mechanism.

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

Mr B. Mpundu: Takwaba, takwaba!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order!

 Another point of order is raised.

Mr B. Mpundu: They can respond, Mr Speaker. They can respond. That is why they are there.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Member!

 May you resume your seat.

Mr B. Mpundu: Takwaba!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: The official language is English, not takwaba. What language is that? You should speak English in here. You went to school.  For one to stand as Member of Parliament, one should be a Grade 12 but at times, I get to wonder whether you did, “Can you remember” hon. Member.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: May the hon. Minister proceed with the point of order.

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: Mr Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity to raise a point of order.

Mr Speaker, I am sorry to interrupt my passionate speaker and brother, Hon. Mpundu.

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order based on Standing Order No. 71, which demands that the speaker should be factual and show relevance in his speech.

Mr Speaker, earlier on, before another point of order was raised, he said that the concessionaire built a bridge and again, as he continued speaking, he said that the bridge which was built collapsed within a short period of time.

Mr Speaker, the concessionaire never built a bridge, but constructed a road over a bridge, and there are about five bridges on the road …

Mr B. Mpundu: Ah!

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: … which were built. Therefore, the road was constructed over them to better the surface of what was there. What was washed away was a bridge that was built way back. So, this has given the concessionaire an opportunity to rebuilt the bridge and to also observe other underlying bridges which were built long before during the Patriotic Front (PF) Regime.

Mr Speaker, is the hon. Member in order to claim and assert that under the Public/Private Partnership (PPP) Council, the concessionaire built a bridge which collapsed because they never did.

Mr Speaker, I seek your serious ruling on the matter.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker:  Thank you, hon. Minister.

The hon. Member for Nkana is completely out of order.

Laughter

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: I guided him to be relevant in his speech.  He is a former District Commissioner (DC) and he knows very well that the bridge was built under the Patriotic Front (PF) regime.  So, the hon. Member for Nkana is completely out of order. Completely!

Laughter

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: May you proceed with your debate, but, ensure that you restrict yourself to the report.

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Speaker, I wish the hon. Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation would be reminded when he told me, “Tekanya” because that it is not an English word. The same measure you use on us should also be used on them. (Pointed at the Executive).

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member, may you resume your seat.

Are you trying to challenge my guidance in the House?

Laughter

Hon. Government Member: Send him out!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Are you sure, hon. Member? The hon. Minister may have used that language in a subtle way but, for you, you used that language repeatedly. I hope you understand what I am trying to put across.

Mr B. Mpundu: I understand, Mr Speaker.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: You have twenty-two minutes to wind up.

Hon. Government Members: Twenty-two seconds!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Twenty-two seconds.

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Speaker, the consortium that has worked on the Chingola/Chililabombwe Dual Carriage Way was given eighteen years to recover its investment. The Committee undertook a study and discovered that the consortium will collect its investment in about seven years.

Mr Speaker, it begs a question: Why we given it all the extra years to keep on collecting our money?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order!

Mr hon. Member’s time expired.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member, your time is up. Here, we operate with time. The hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning also wants to debate.

The Minister of Finance and National Planning (Dr Musokotwane): Mr Speaker, I had no intention of debating, but since a number of false allegations have been made, it is my responsibility to respond to them.

Mr Speaker, I think, the first thing I can say is that on many occasions in the House, I have asked hon. Colleagues to invest in knowledge. If you speak in the absence of knowledge, and speak falsehoods, you are a danger to yourself and the nation. When you make allegations that are false, and then you get dragged to court, …

Mr B. Mpundu: There is no dragging to court muno.

Dr Musokotwane: … get arrested, then, …

Mr B. Mpundu: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

Interruptions

Mr B. Mpundu: No. Dragging whom to court?

No, Mr Speaker.

Dr Musokotwane: … you say that the Government is unfair.

Mr Speaker, I want, …

Mr B. Mpundu: Who is he warning?

Dr Musokotwane: … to demonstrate –

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Nkana, you had the opportunity to debate. No one interjected, or interrupted you.

Mr B. Mpundu (was upstanding): He cannot be warning me on the Floor of the House, and you let it pass.

Drag whom to court?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Resume your seat. The hon. Minister is on the Floor. Let him put his views across.

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Speaker, they were interjecting (pointed at Hon. UPND Members) when I was debating (He resumed his seat).

Hon. UPND Members: Ah!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Minister, you may proceed.

Mr Munsanje: Send him out!

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Speaker, I want to demonstrate that the previous debater is a danger to himself and the country. He has the habit of peddling falsehoods.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Just last week, Mr Speaker, he alleged that this person speaking formed a company with a maid, and that the company was given a big contract.

Mr B. Mpundu: Look at what he is saying. On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

Dr Musokotwane: I am demonstrating that this man is unreliable.

Interruptions

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Speaker, point of order. No, no, no!

Dr Musokotwane: I am demonstrating that he is unreliable.

Mr B. Mpundu (was upstanding): This is not correct, Mr Speaker. No, no.

Interruptions

Dr Musokotwane: Therefore, the allegation that –

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Resume your seat, hon. Member.

Mr B. Mpundu: No!

Interruptions

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: No. Resume your seat.

Mr B. Mpundu: No! Have you heard?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Which “No”? Just resume your seat.

Interruptions

Dr Musokotwane: Just wait.

Interruptions

Mr B. Mpundu: He is saying that I am lying.

Hon. UPND Members: Yes, you are lying.

Mr B. Mpundu: How? No!

Interruptions

Mr Kasandwe interjected.

Interruptions

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Nkana, leave my assembly chamber.

Mr B. Mpundu: No. Takwaba ifyafi!

Interruptions

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Leave the assembly chamber.

Interruptions

Mr B. Mpundu: Why does he want to drag me to court? Mwamuleka!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Leave the Assembly Chamber.

Interruptions

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: You are expected to be honourable. The people of Nkana are watching.

Mr B. Mpundu left the Assembly Chamber.

Interruptions

Ms Phiri: You are just remaining with a few months. You will not come back (pointed at Hon. UPND Members).

Interruptions

Mr Mutelo: You cannot even see the age.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: It is very shameful that an hon. Member of Parliament can behave in that manner. I think, it is a message to the voters, who have been opportuned to scrutinise the kind of hon. Members they send to the House.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Ensure that the right people are brought to the House.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Look at their character and how they interface with the community. Avoid bringing to the House –

Ms Phiri: They are going.

Mrs Mulyata: Naiwe! Ndimwe muyambilila kuyenda.

Ms Phiri: You are going.

Mr Tayali: Where are we going?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: It is a message to all Zambians.

Ms Phiri: Kuyabebele!

Mrs Mulyata: Kuyabebele ndimwe, bakabwalala.

Muyenda! Munayenda kudala!

Interruptions

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning, you may continue.

Interruptions

Ms Phiri: Ba hon. Minister, muleya.

Mrs Mulyata: Muleya, imwe, bakabwalala. Mwaliya kale.

Ms Phiri: Bakabwalala nimwe.

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Speaker, I was demonstrating –

Mrs Mulyata: Mukumbwila chabe. We are in power. We shall remain in power.

Ms Phiri: Muleya abena Zambia baleyfwila.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Members!

Interruptions

Mrs Mulyata: Tiyope chani?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Minister!

Mr Amutike: Ehe, Madam!

Mr Matambo: Hehe, Lusaka Chairlady!

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Speaker, I was demonstrating that the hon. Member has a tendency of peddling falsehoods. I was saying that a few weeks ago, maybe, last week, he alleged that I made a company with the maid at my house, and we got a contract, not realising that the Office of the Minister of Finance and National Planning holds shares on behalf of the people of Zambia. Although my name appears, the moment I leave, the next person’s name will appear, but he made that allegation.

Hon. UPND Members: He is a liar.

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Speaker, today he stated another falsehood, and alleged that the money collected from toll gates is being used by the private partner. In reality, that money is being utilised to repair the roads, pending works that the private partner was given, because some parts of the roads were not drivable. So, who takes responsibility for that? That money is put into an account, and it is jointly controlled by the Government and the private partner, and utilisation of that money is agreed upon. So, when the question of whether the money can be utilised for a certain purpose rises, both sides must agree that it is for that purpose. Yet, today, the hon. Member has made all those allegations. All I am saying is that, on the basis of his conduct today and in the past, this man has a tendency to make false allegations on the Floor of the House.

Mr Amutike: Yes!

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Speaker, that is a danger to him because if, for example, I dragged him to court over the allegation that he made last week, he would cry, and say that this Government is ruthless, and that it does not give people free speech, yet he does not realise that he is the one causing problems for himself. The allegations that were made are baseless because they were made by a man who is known to make false allegations most of the time.

Mr Amutike: And not normal.

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

The Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation (Mr Haimbe, SC.): Mr Speaker, first and foremost, allow me to thank your Committee for its report, and the recommendations contained therein.

Mr Speaker, by and large, the Government has taken note of the concerns set out in the report. It is worth noting that out of fifty-two Statutory Instruments (SIs) that were reviewed for the period under consideration, one or two SIs have been highlighted, and your Committee raised some concerns. One of the concerns relates to SI No. 13 of 2025, relating to the tolls at Abram Zyoni Mokola Toll Plaza. Your Committee noted that the SI was issued in accordance with the enabling legislation. I think that is the overriding message that the nation must take, aside from the arguments made on the Floor of the House by the hon. Member for Nkana, who expressed concern about the negotiation of public-private partnership (PPP) projects and the toll sharing mechanism.

Mr Speaker, it must be noted that the Government considers PPPs a key tool for accelerating development in difficult circumstances. That is what the people of Zambia must keep in mind at all material times. This Administration inherited a country that had no resources. It was broke, and had to go through a devastating restructuring process to reverse the unfortunate circumstances it found itself in. Therefore, PPPs provided an innovative way to ensure that we, as the Government, continue with our obligations to provide services to the people of Zambia, as was spoken about; the construction of roads and other infrastructure, without affecting our bottom line and the national resources of the country. Therefore, even as one or two observations may be made in terms of the conditions and terms of each particular PPP that is negotiated, it is imperative to note that the overarching consideration must be it is done for the interest of the people of Zambia and the model itself is one that benefits them, without affecting their pockets. If we affected people’s pockets, the outcome would be less fewer resources for everyday use for a common man on the street. So, it is important to look at the issue with a broader picture.

Mr Speaker, there was a very scary assertion that was made here in terms of the use of tolls as we currently stand for road projects done under PPPs. It was suggested by the hon. Member for Nkana that, in fact, roads are being constructed using the toll income. Now, I would like the people of Zambia to think about this logically, and I do agree with the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning that those assertions cannot be relied on. The hon. Member, first of all, did not bring any evidence to the Floor of the House to show how much income is generated from tolls. If we have three or four toll plazas on a road like the Ndola/Lusaka Dual Carriageway, is the hon. Member suggesting that the amount collected on a daily or weekly basis from those particular toll plazas is sufficient to cover the whole cost of construction of that road? Is he suggesting that within the period under consideration, US$600 million will be collected from those toll plazas? Is he being honest with the people of Zambia when he makes such an assertion? The answer to that question is clearly no, because toll money trickles in on a daily basis in limited amounts. It cannot be said, therefore, that the amount that is trickling in is sufficient as a lump sum to fund projects that need to be done. So, it is a matter of logic and, indeed, the model of PPPs speaks to this particular issue that we have done, where the concessionaire puts forward a significant portion and only recovers during the payback period, which often exceeds eighteen, twenty or more years. As such, people stand to benefit from PPP projects. They are not burdened with a lump sum amount that must come from their hard work in order to fund projects. I hope this helps to clarify the matter on PPP projects.

Mr Speaker, there was also a commentary on Statutory Instrument No. 44 of 2025, the Legal Practitioners (Continuing Professional Development) Rules, 2025. The Committee observed that a practicing certificate only being given when the continuing professional development (CPD) has been achieved or, indeed, has been undertaken, amounts to an infringement on the rights of legal practitioners.

Mr Speaker, as the Government, we say that that is not entirely an accurate position to take. It is akin to suggesting that requiring someone to take an aptitude test or a test to show their proficiency before they get a licence is an infringement on their rights, which is not correct. It is part of the licensing regime. It is part of the process of ensuring that individuals remain current and, therefore, are not a danger to the public when they offer services as sensitive as those we offer as legal practitioners. Therefore, we would like to clarify that. However, we do concur with the Committee when it says that the SI was proposed in accordance with the enabling provisions of legislation.

Mr Speaker, in respect of the National Arts Council of Zambia (Amendment) Rules, 2025, your Committee did observe that there is a need for the Ministry of Youth, Sport and Arts to undertake sensitisation on the provisions of the rules insofar as they relate to the practitioners they are targeted at. We welcome the recommendation of the Committee, which is duly noted.

Mr Speaker, by and large, as I conclude, I would like to once again express thanks to the Committee for the diligent work that has been done and assure the Committee, and, indeed, this House, that the Government has taken keen note and will address those matters in accordance with the other important considerations that we have laid forth.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Mutale: Mr Speaker, firstly, let me thank all the debaters who have contributed to the Motion. I also extend special thanks to the seconder, Hon. Mulenga, the Member of Parliament for Kwacha, who is also the vice-chairperson of our Committee.

Mr Speaker, in concluding this Motion, the Committee would like to urge the Government to ensure that the work of our Committee, which looks at international agreements, is considered because there are many international agreements that we have adopted and signed, but most of them are still waiting for domestication. We urge the Government to ensure that most of the protocols and international agreements that we have signed and agreed to as Parliament are domesticated so that the people of Zambia can get the benefit of being party to those agreements.

Mr Speaker, furthermore, I wish to re-emphasise the Government’s commitment to ensuring that information is disseminated to our people. I can cite one agreement, which is the African Continental Free Trade Area (AfCFTA), to which we are a member and domestication has now been done. However, across most communities and business houses, people are not aware of this agreement. This puts our people in a situation in which they do not know about that trade agreement. We have broken trade barriers with other countries, giving their people an advantage to come and conduct business here, whereas our business houses are unaware of that arrangement. Suffice to say that since the Committee picked up the issue, it has responded positively by engaging the Zambia Development Agency (ZDA), which has gone around the country to sensitise business houses by holding seminars and workshops in most provincial capitals. We liked that as a Committee.

Mr Speaker, I also want to talk about some SIs regarding shopkeepers. In most instances, shopkeepers do not know their rights, yet this Government has created an environment to secure their terms of tenure and what they do at their workplaces. So, we are also urging the ministry responsible, the Ministry of Labour and Social Security, to ensure that domestic workers, whom some people call maids or house servants, also understand the regulations and the SIs that provide safety nets for them.

Mr Speaker, I would like to thank you for allowing the Committee to Table its report at this point in the year.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Question put and agreed to.

ADJOURNMENT

The Vice-President (Dr Nalumango): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.

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The House adjourned at 1630 hours until 0900 hours on Friday, 10^thApril, 2026.

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WRITTEN REPLY TO QUESTION

MONEY PAID TOWARDS DOMESTIC AND EXTERNAL DEBT FROM 2018 TO 2025

291. Mr Kafwaya (Lunte) asked the Minister of Finance and National Planning:

1. how much money was paid towards the domestic and the external debts, in the following years:

 

1. 2018;
2. 2019;
3. 2024; and
4. 2025; and

 

1. what the projected total national debt service for 2026, is.

The Minister of Finance and National Planning (Dr Musokotwane): Mr Speaker, during the period under review, payments made towards domestic debt were as follows:

Year                    Amount Paid (K)

2018                   49.169 billion

2019                   32.692 billion

2024                   99.377 billion

2025                   99.066 billion

Mr Speaker, external debt payments were as follows:

Year                    Amount Paid (US$)

2018                    745.1 million

2019                   1.089 billion

2024                   592.9 million

2025                   567.1 million

Mr Speaker, the total payments made towards domestic and external debt were as follows:

Year                    Amount Paid (K)

2018                   58.054 billion

2019                   47.963 billion

2024                   115.899 billion

2025                    111.638 billion

Mr Speaker, the total projected debt service for 2026 is K73.667 billion broken down as:

1. domestic debt – K52.001 billion; and
2. external debt – K21.666 billion.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.