Thursday, 4^th December, 2025

The House met at 1430 hours

[MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

NATIONAL ANTHEM

PRAYER

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URGENT MATTER WITHOUT NOTICE

MR CHIBUYE, HON. MEMBER FOR ROAN, ON THE HON. MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS AND INTERNAL SECURITY, MR MWIIMBU, SC., AND THE HON. MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT, MR SIALUBALO, ON THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AT MANYUMBI CHECKPOINT

Mr Chibuye (Roan): On an Urgent Matter without Notice, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: An Urgent Matter without Notice is raised.

Mr Chibuye: Madam Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to raise this Urgent Matter without Notice. It is directed at the hon. Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security and the hon. Minister of Local Government and Rural Development.

Madam Speaker, there is a security checkpoint called Manyumbi on the Great North Road, which has been an inconvenience for those of us who traverse between Lusaka Province and Copperbelt Province. The traffic jam at that checkpoint sometimes has been so much of an inconvenience that we are made to spend thirty minutes in traffic.

Madam Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security and the hon. Minister of Local Government and Rural Development why one checkpoint has officers from the Immigration Department, the Zambia Police Service’s traffic section and police officers for general duties and officers from the Kabwe Municipal Council to collect levies. Why are all those officers piled in one place? The same vehicle will be checked by the police traffic section, then the council will come in to issue receipts and police officers for general duties will also conduct an inspection. It takes so much time and that inconveniences many people.

Madam Speaker, is the hon. Minister of Local Government and Rural Development, together with his counterpart, in order to allow such a situation, which has actually been inconveniencing many people? Further, why is it that the Kabwe Municipal Council is the only one collecting levies from every truck that passes through that point, while on the Copperbelt, where we have a farming block in Mpongwe, we do not have such levy collection checkpoints on the road?

Madam Speaker, we are tired and need your urgent indulgence.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Roan, that situation has not just happened. It has been ongoing for a long time. For a matter to be considered under Urgent Matters without Notice, like I usually mention, it has to be raised within twenty-four hours of its occurrence. However, that is an old problem that has been happening for some time. Moreover, when you are raising such matters, hon. Member, you are supposed to be specific, or rather, you are supposed to raise one matter.  In your urgent matter, you brought up two issues.  So, because of that, your matter does not qualify under Urgent Matters without Notice. Kindly, find another platform to raise it. It would be nice if you filed in a question.

We make progress.

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MINISTERIAL STATEMENT

 UPGRADING OF ZAMBIA’S CREDIT RATING BY STANDARD AND POOR’S GLOBAL RATINGS AND FITCH RATINGS

The Minister of Finance and National Planning (Dr Musokotwane): Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, for granting me this opportunity to update this august House and the nation on the recent sovereign credit rating upgrades issued for Zambia by Standard and Poor’s (S&P) Global Ratings and Fitch Ratings. These developments mark a further strengthening of Zambia’s international credit standing following the country’s comprehensive debt restructuring.

Madam Speaker, the purpose of this statement is to inform the House on the sovereign rating upgrade by S&P Global Ratings from selective default (SD) to CCC+, with a stable outlook, as well as the sovereign rating upgrade by Fitch Ratings from restricted default (RD) to B–, with a stable outlook. I will also provide historical context on Zambia’s sovereign rating over the past decade, explain the implications of the new ratings for the economy and reaffirm the Government’s commitment to sound macroeconomic management and responsible debt practices.

Madam Speaker, to fully appreciate the significance of the upgrade announced this month, it is important to situate it within the broader history of Zambia’s credit ratings as follows:

2011 to 2014: First Ratings and Positive Outlook

Madam Speaker, Zambia obtained its first sovereign credit rating in 2011 from Fitch Ratings and S&P Global Ratings, both assigning a B+ rating, with a stable outlook. This reflected strong gross domestic product (GDP) growth, low debt levels and macroeconomic stability. In 2012, Zambia successfully issued its first Eurobond, supported by these strong ratings. Throughout 2013 to 2014, the ratings remained around B and B+, though with growing concerns over the rising public expenditure and weakening fiscal discipline.

2015 to 2018: Gradual Deterioration amid Rising Debt

Madam Speaker, between 2015 and 2018, all three major rating agencies, namely Fitch Ratings, S&P Global Ratings and Moody’s Ratings, began downgrading Zambia, citing rapid accumulation of external debt, higher deficits, rising arrears to suppliers and contractors and pressure on foreign exchange reserves. Consequently, the ratings progressively fell from B+ to B, B–­ and finally to CCC, signaling increasing credit risk.

2019 to 2020: Intensified Stress and Default

Madam Speaker, by 2019, Zambia’s ratings had fallen deeply into CCC, indicating very high credit risk. In 2020, due to the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) shock and inability to meet Eurobond coupon payments, Zambia defaulted on its external commercial debt, becoming the first country to do so during the pandemic. As a consequence, S&P Global Ratings downgraded Zambia to SD, while Fitch Ratings downgraded Zambia to RD. Moody’s Ratings downgraded to Ca, the second-lowest long-term credit rating on the Moody’s Ratings’ scale.

2021 to 2023: Reforms and Beginning of Stabilisation

Madam Speaker, between 2021 and 2023, Zambia re-engaged the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and embarked on a homegrown reform programme, culminating in the approval of the IMF extended credit facility in August, 2022. Though still in default categories, rating agencies began issuing positive and stable outlooks, reflecting confidence in Zambia’s reform trajectory and debt negotiations.

2024: Successful Restructuring and Noticeable Momentum

 Madam Speaker, by June, 2024, Zambia successfully concluded negotiations with the Eurobond holders, restructuring US$3.8 billion in Eurobonds. This was after reaching an agreement with official creditors and, to date, a total US$12.7 billion out of the eligible US$13.5 billion, translating to 94 per cent, has been restructured. These milestones have prompted rating agencies to signal imminent upgrades once the country exited default status.

2025: Restoration of Creditworthiness – Recent Upgrades

Madam Speaker, two weeks ago, following comprehensive debt restructuring, Standard & Poor (S&P) Ratings upgraded Zambia from SD to CC+ with stable outlook. Shortly thereafter, last Friday, Fitch upgraded Zambia from RD to B- with stable outlook. For the first time since 2019, Zambia's sovereign ratings are back in the B- category, signalling substantial improvement in the nation's creditworthiness. The journey from B+ in 2011 down to default in 2020, and now steadily climbing back to B- in 2025, illustrates both the severity of the challenges we faced and the depth of commitment required to restore macroeconomic stability.

S&P Sovereign Credit Rating Upgrade

Madam Speaker, on 21^st November, 2025, the S&P Global Ratings upgraded Zambia's sovereign credit rating from SD to CC+ long-term and C short-term, and stable outlook. The S&P cited successful progress in debt restructuring, improved fiscal consolidation, more stable macroeconomic conditions and greater clarity on Zambia's medium-term growth prospects. This marked Zambia's formal exit from default status in the S&P's assessment.

Fitch Sovereign Credit Ratings Upgrade

Madam Speaker, on 28^th November, 2025, Fitch Ratings upgraded Zambia's long-term foreign-currency issuer default rating from Restricted Default (RD) to B- with stable outlook. This upgrade is particularly significant because it places Zambia on a full rating category above S&P's CC+. It acknowledges the normalisation of relationships with commercial creditors, recognises improved debt sustainability and signals strong confidence in Zambia's fiscal and structural reforms.

Implication of the Upgrades for Zambia

Madam Speaker, these sovereign credit rating upgrades carry far-reaching implications for our economy, our international standing and the welfare of our people. Firstly, the upgrades formally confirm Zambia's exit from a state of default with two major global rating agencies. This is a significant restoration of credibility. It signals to the world that Zambia is once again a country that meets its obligations and manages its finances responsibly. Secondly, the upgrades reinforce investor confidence. When rating agencies recognise Zambia as a more creditworthy destination, both domestic and international investors are reassured that our economic and governance fundamentals are strengthening, and increased confidence translates into higher investment flows, expanded business activity and ultimately, more jobs for our citizens. Thirdly, these upgrades will gradually improve Zambia's access to financing on international markets. While we do not intend to return to unsustainable commercial borrowing, a higher credit rating lowers the risk premium on the country, improves perceptions of Zambia's debt sustainability and over time allows the Government and the private sector to secure financing at more affordable terms. Fourth, these rating actions serve as an independent validation of the Government's reform agenda. They confirm that the difficult but necessary fiscal and structural reforms we undertook, many of which have required sacrifice, are yielding tangible results. This credibility strengthens Zambia's hand in discussions with development partners, investors and credit institutions.

Madam Speaker, I wish to highlight the positive effects of debt restructuring. A successful debt restructuring agreement demonstrates dedication to our economic reforms and responsible fiscal management, thereby enhancing trust as a lower-risk investment choice. This heightened trust draws in foreign direct investment (FDI) and portfolio investment, resulting in the influx of foreign currency. The financial room created by debt relief permits the Government to invest in infrastructure, public services and other developmental programmes. A more secure economic landscape following restructuring also motivates foreign investors to put their money into diverse sectors, such as mining, agriculture, manufacturing, just to mention a few. Increased foreign currency from these investments enables the country to build up foreign reserves, thereby improving the country's capacity to withstand external economic shocks and further supporting exchange rate stability. I may add that as we speak, Zambia’s foreign currency reserves are the highest ever attained at US$5.2 billion.

Finally, Madam Speaker, the upgrades create a foundation for sustainable growth. They reinforce the importance of maintaining prudent fiscal management, completing negotiations with remaining creditors, protecting social sector spending while enhancing revenue mobilisation and ensuring that we never again slide into debt distress. While the road ahead remains long, these developments demonstrate clearly that Zambia is moving in the right direction. The international community has taken notice; investor confidence is returning, and the fundamentals for long-term prosperity are being rebuilt.

Conclusion

Madam Speaker, as I conclude, allow me to highlight the significance of the moment before us. For the first time in more than five years, Zambia's sovereign credit ratings have begun to climb back to the B-category. The recent upgrades by S&P and Fitch are not simply technical adjustments. They are a clear affirmation by the international community that Zambia has restored discipline, rebuilt confidence and regained its place as a credible participant in global markets. These positive assessments are a direct result of the collective efforts of the New Dawn Government, this House and the Zambian people, who have shown patience, resilience and commitment during a difficult period of economic reform. These investments we have made in sound fiscal management, debt sustainability and structural reforms are now bearing fruit. However, let me be clear that these upgrades are not a destination; they are a foundation. They give us momentum, and they signal that if we stay the course, if we continue to guard public resources diligently, implement reforms faithfully and place the welfare of our citizens at the centre of policy, Zambia's credit rating will continue to strengthen.

Madam Speaker, I wish to thank the House for its continued support, and assure the nation that the Government will maintain the reforms and discipline that have brought us to this point of renewed confidence and optimism.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members are now free to ask questions on points of clarification on the Ministerial Statement presented by the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning.

Mr Chaatila (Moomba): Madam Speaker, it would be folly for me to not commend the hon. Minister and the Government for the work they have been doing in the last four years.

Madam Speaker, the Government needs to be commended for this great milestone. It needs to be commended for hard work and also, for being committed to the people of Zambia. When I was listening to the hon. Minister highlighting all the benefits, I started thinking of my grandmother in the village. I also started thinking about the rural constituencies. 

Madam Speaker, would the hon. Minister able to explain in simple terms, to our ordinary people in rural areas, the benefits of this great milestone?

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, the benefits are quite obvious. As the hon. Member may recall, in spite of the heavy borrowing by the Government then, children were not able to go to access free education.  Now, because of the debt restructuring and people having trust in us, for the first time in many years, children can go to school, whether they are poor or rich. Everyone goes to school without segregation.

Mr Nkandu: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane:  Madam Speaker, for the first time in many years, we have seen so much development in our constituencies. We are seeing classrooms being constructed. We are seeing teachers being hired. We are seeing children who used to sit on logs of trees now sitting on decent desks.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, we have seen–

Dr Musokotwane coughed.

Hon. Members: Drink water.

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, retirees used to take years without being paid, even though a lot of money was being borrowed.

 Madam Speaker, in the environment that we have now, we see so much infrastructure development projects being undertaken. The Lusaka/Ndola Dual Carriageway is being constructed.  The Ndola/Chingola Road and the Ndola/Mufulira Road and many other roads in the country are being worked on. This is happening because we have created an environment for investment. As I said in the statement, people can trust us that we can put money into this country again.

Madam Speaker, the youths …

Mr Nkandu: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: … are able to be supported through colleges. So, all these positive results that people are seeing in the constituencies are happening now because this Government has seriously sanitised the public financial management, which never happened. 

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Sampa (Matero): Madam Speaker, I have listened to a very good Ministerial Statement. It sounded the same as the one he presented in 2011, when he was hon. Minister of Finance then. He has told us a …

Hon. Government Members: Question!

Mr Sampa: … sweet story of highest reserves, rising inflation and good exchange rate. That is not what we hear when we listen to masses.

Mr Nkandu: President with no party. 

Mr Sampa: Madam Speaker, unfortunately, the masses out there are saying that everything is bad. They are talking about load shedding and expensive things.  Even the people of Liuwa Constituency are also telling me the same.

Madam Speaker, this good and sweet story that the hon. Minister has read about the economy of Zambia, was it written in or outside Zambia?

Mr Nkandu: Question!

Mr Sampa: Madam Speaker, who is telling the truth between his report as hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning and the United Party for National Development (UPND) Government that everything in this country is fine? With regard to the masses are saying that things are not fine, who is telling the truth between him and the masses?

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, I think those of us who were in this House will remember that one of the earliest statements that was made by the Patriotic Front (PF) Government was that we do not glorify statistics because they are meaningless. I think Hon. Mtolo was here.

Hon. Mtolo indicated assent.

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, as a result of that, indeed they did not pay attention to the national statistics. That was amazing because the national statistics were like going to the hospital and the doctor, instead of measuring your blood pressure, sugar levels, and other vitals, he tells you that measuring vitals is useless.

Laughter

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, that is how mistakes were made because the PF Government did not look at the vital statistics to say where our country and the debt headed? They ignored that like a doctor who refuses to measure blood pressure. The result was the disaster that we experienced.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, the hon. Member for Matero says there is a different story between what the people are saying and what I am reading here. I think it depends on whom one is.  If he went to my constituency or many other rural constituencies, including those in town, and told the people there that t this Government is not working, they could harm him …

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: … because now, they have teachers in schools that they never saw under the PF. Their children are now sitting on decent desks, which they never saw under PF. They are now being fed in school, which never happened. A few times that happened, money was stolen, and the donors stopped helping. So, it really depends on whom one is. I can assure him that if we go to some of the rural provinces, including the constituencies where a number of our hon. Colleagues from the PF come from, we would find that people massively appreciate the effort of this Government in terms of improving their livelihoods.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Lubozha (Chifubu): Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, Zambia’s credit rating upgrade offers several key benefits for the country, such as restored credibility, lower borrowing costs and increased investment. This clear sovereign risk profile that the country has attained is likely to attract foreign direct investment (FDI) in key sectors such as mining, agriculture and energy. Can the hon. Minister share with this House some of the investments that are likely to come and those that have come, particularly in the energy sector?

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, even before the positive credit ratings were announced, people had been observing the changes that are taking place in Zambia. It is no wonder, therefore, that whereas investors abandoned Mopani Copper Mines Plc, leaving thousands on the streets unemployed, they are back, because they have been watching what has been happening. The Konkola Copper Mines (KCM) Plc is back, and First Quantum Minerals (FQM), which was about to leave, is expanding production. Barrick Gold Corporation, which was almost leaving, is also expanding.

Madam Speaker, you had heard many times before about the re-opening of Mulungushi Textiles in Kabwe. I do not know how many times the announcement was made, maybe, two or three times, but it never happened. Now, the machines are being installed and production is set to start in the new year.

Madam Speaker, whoever imagined that this country, which was always importing fertiliser, would be a major exporter of fertiliser, just to give examples. So, indeed, as people realise that there is serious leadership in the country now, they feel confident about investing their money in the country. That is what is fueling the economic growth that we are seeing, the business opportunities that are arising and the prosperity that this country expects to continue.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Charles Mulenga (Kwacha): Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, let me start by congratulating the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning for ensuring that the country achieves this milestone by making it a point to reach the sovereign credit rating upgrade. It is no mean achievement, considering that at the time the United Party for National Development (UPND) came in office, the growth rate was negative. Currently, we are posting a positive growth rate. So, it is an achievement. However, I would like to know the factors that have been employed or instituted for the country to attain this historic achievement.

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, I think, the short answer to that question is that that is because of a credible Government led by a credible President, a credible Cabinet, and a responsible Parliament. In the absence of that credibility, no one would even notice early enough that we had a problem.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, people pretended that this country did not have a serious debt problem. Advice kept coming about the problem, and that it should be dealt with. However, people pretended because they did not want to look at those vital statistics that I have talked about. If doctors do not have the initiative to measure blood pressure, sugar and other vitals, how then can they tell whether the person is well or not?

Hon. UPND Member: Temperature!

Dr Musokotwane: Temperature, yes.

Madam Speaker, the most important thing was for this Government to be truthful and accept that we had a problem, and that since we had borrowed, we needed not pretend that we did not have a problem, and to not borrow and run away, but to go back to our creditors and talk. The discussions, in earnest, are what have contributed to these positive things. In short, credible leadership is what makes the difference.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Kambita (Zambezi East): Madam Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity you have given me to ask the hon. Minister a political question. I seek your indulgence, as I give a pre-amble before I ask the question.

Madam Speaker, it appears that good people are sometimes not considered and praised at the right time when good things happen. If you recap, you will see that we have achieved several milestones in the past four years. For the first time, we were able to employ public servants in large numbers, thousands. We are talking about more than 30,000 people employed as teachers in a single year.

Mr Twasa: They are not on the payroll!

Mr Kambita: Madam Speaker, more than 11,000 people were employed as health workers in a single year and subsequent years, even amidst problems. Now, those who brought us to where we are, in that deep debt, have been speaking the loudest, condemning situations, and taking advantage of, maybe, weather effects.

Mr Twasa: What is your question?

Mr Kambita: Madam Speaker, I would like to ask the hon. Minister a political question. Why is it that we do not sing about these good things that we have achieved often, so that Zambians can know that they now have credible leadership that can achieve such milestones, which are very hard to achieve anywhere, especially in this part of the world? Why is it that we have not sung this song very much? What measures have been put in place to ensure that this song is sung in such a way that it irritates even those who put us in this situation?

Madam First Deputy Speaker gave the floor to Dr Musokotwane.

Mr Mtolo: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: I have already called the hon. Minister. Just give me a few minutes.

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, I think, Hon. Kambita has said something very important. He has said that there has been debate in this House. There have been aspersions and accusations in this House about the United Party for National Development (UPND) Government putting the Government into unsustainable debt. I think, you remember that.

Hon. UPND Members: Yes!

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, the Patriotic Front (PF) hon. Colleagues and those outside have been claiming that this Government is putting Zambia into unsustainable debt. Here we are now, independent people and institutions, have declared that Zambia is making progress and, therefore, Zambia’s credit rating has been uplifted. These are independent people. They are not UPND cadres. So, I am asking those who say that this country is getting into deeper debt to bring their witnesses. Let them challenge these stories. Let them lay their documents on the Table and say, “Zambia is getting into debt problems”. For us, as the Government, independent witnesses have certified that the country is headed in the right direction.

Madam Speaker, I think, as far as the singing is concerned, we can all stand up and start singing now.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Nkandu: Invite us!

Dr Musokotwane: Yes, I will invite you so that we sing the song very loudly.

Madam Speaker, finally, I want comment on someone saying that the Government has employed 30,000 people, but they are not on the payroll. During the Patriotic Front (PF) Government, there were many months when civil servants could not be paid. However, since the current Government came into office, there has never been a time when civil servants have been paid late. They have always been paid on time. I think that these are the positive effects to look at. Let me further state that during the PF Government’s time, there was a two-year wage freeze. Civil servants had zero salary increments, but since we, as the New Dawn Government, came into office, we have provided increments to public workers every year.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Mtolo: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: A point of order is raised.

Mr Mtolo: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, I raise this contemporaneous point of order on Hon. Kambita, who is asking us to sing a song on statistics. When the Patriotic Front (PF) Government took over power, its statement was, and I quote, “We are not a Government that will bask in the empty glory of statistical euphoria”.

Madam Speaker, I can repeat?

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mtolo: The previous Government said, “We are not a party that will bask in the empty glory of statistical euphoria”. In simple terms, Madam Speaker, the PF said, “We do not know inflation, and we do not want to talk about the exchange rate, reserves and the gross domestic product (GDP)”. In other words, there was no point of comparison. Even if we sang, we would sing to a group of people who would not understand the language. Therefore, is Hon. Kambita in order to bother the able hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning and all of us by asking us to dance every day and sing to that group (pointed at hon. PF Members), which does not want to listen to statistical euphoria?

I seek your serious ruling, Madam Speaker; a very serious one, especially on Hon. Miles Sampa.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Can you cite the Standing Order that has been breached, hon. Minister?

Interruptions

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, it is on the relevance speech, according to Standing Order No. 71, in our documents guiding debate.

Laughter

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Minister of Agriculture, you have adequately debated your Point of Order.

Laughter

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Actually, you were debating. So, that Point of Order is not admissible.

Mr Anakoka (Luena): Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and I would like to thank the hon. Minister for that highly informative Ministerial Statement.

Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister has informed the nation that during the period 2011 to 2021, the country lost credibility internationally, and we became the subject of examples cited at international conferences on how not to run a country. However, in just under four years, the situation has been turned around. The people who are synonymous with running the economy of our country aground are regrouping. They are regrouping under the same name, which they mismanaged the affairs of the country with, or under alternative formations. Does the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning have any words of advice for the people of Zambia on how to stay out of trouble, especially as we approach a year of elections? I ask because the same group will be going to the people and telling them, “Vote for us”, so that they come and take us back to the credit rating of triple C, with a negative outlook.

Mr Kapyanga: Mulebuta sana ayi!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon Member for Mpika, wait for your turn. You are the next one on the list.

Dr Musokotwane: Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Indeed, the hon. Member for Luena is right. Going back to the people who put the country into problems is like, as I said, going to a doctor who has no thermometer, who cannot measure blood pressure or blood sugar. So, the people of Zambia should not go to such a doctor. They should go to a proper doctor.

Madam Speaker, if you were to draw a graph or follow the credit rating of our country, it is very clear that as soon as the PF assumed office, the credit rating kept getting bad. The moment the PF left office, the credit rating kept getting better. So, why would anyone wish to support a political grouping that has demonstrated incompetence?

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Kapyanga (Mpika): Thank you so much, Madam Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to ask the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning a question. I would also like to thank him for presenting the Ministerial Statement.

Madam Speaker, today, our country is experiencing load-shedding like we have never experienced before in the history of this country. The prices of essential commodities have not gone down. Tangible infrastructure development has not been achieved. Our people are suffering. The prices of farming inputs are very high.

Hon. Opposition Members: Hammer, hammer!

Interruptions

Mr Kapyanga: That is against the Government’s own promises of reducing prices of essential commodities. That is against the promises …

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Mr Kapyanga: … of ending load-shedding and corruption. How can they call themselves a credible Government when they have failed to deliver on their own campaign promises (whilst pointing at hon. Government Members)?

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Member!

Hon. Member for Mpika, you are now debating and pointing a finger. Please, summarise your question.

Interruptions

Mr B. Mpundu: Mulekeni fye umwaice!

Mr Kapyanga: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, I was asking a question to the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning. How can he and his Government claim to be credible people, yet they have failed to deliver on their campaign promises? Our people are suffering due to load-shedding, high prices of essential commodities and a high unemployment rate among the youths. How can people who are credible fail to deliver on their campaign promises?

Hon. PF Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, if there was ever a party that failed to deliver on its promises, that party was the Patriotic Front (PF). This is because many young people in 2011 were misled into believing that if the PF came to power, there would be money in their pockets. They were made to believe that there would be money in their pockets. However, by the time the PF was leaving the Government, the money was in the pockets of individuals. Society as a whole was in a terrible situation. That is why even the credit rating of the country went down.

Madam Speaker, the hon. Member spoke about infrastructure. Who does not remember how US$120 million was put into the Zambia Railways Limited (ZRL)? Today, the trains in which money was invested still move like chongololos, millipedes. They are trailing everywhere. So, is that the infrastructure they claim to have made? This Government is building impressive infrastructure even without excessive borrowing.

Madam Speaker, how many high schools were left incomplete by the Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD)? How many high schools were left uncompleted in Libonda and Shangombo? How many high schools were left uncompleted by the PF? The one in my constituency, Libonda High School, was left at about 50 per cent. In ten years, the PF did not even lay one concrete block. All over the country, high schools are being completed, including Kampamba Secondary School in Kampamba Ward, Mpika. The high school was left uncompleted by the PF, but now it is being constructed. The truth of the matter is that there have been massive improvements since this Government came in office.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: I will let the last two hon. Members, that is, the hon. Members for Sikongo and Kamfinsa, debate, in that order.

Mr Simushi (Sikongo): Madam Speaker, allow me to welcome my hon. Colleague, Hon. Kasongo, to the House.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Simushi: Madam Speaker, indeed, commendations are in order for the New Dawn Administration …

Mr B. Mpundu: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Hon. UPND Members: Are you Kasongo?

Mr Simushi:  … or to President Hakainde Hichilema and his team, for a job well done.

Madam Speaker, he has elevated this country from the junk status, which was brought about by the mismanagement of the previous Administration, that is, the Patriotic Front (PF). Today, our credit rating is B-. My question is: Are we still going to continue the …

Mr B. Mpundu: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Mr Simushi:  … prudent management of this economy, given what we have achieved?

Madam First Deputy Speaker: A point of order is raised.  

Mr B. Mpundu: Madam Speaker, I was in exile for thirty days, and I have just returned today. I have been seated here, following the proceedings. I was following the debate when Hon. Mtolo, the Minister of Agriculture, wrote me a note saying, “Welcome back, Kasongo.”

Laughter

Mr B. Mpundu: Again, the hon. Member of Parliament for Sikongo is referring to me as “Kasongo.”

Madam Speaker, there is only one Kasongo; unless I am his young brother. We all know who Kasongo is in the country. They erroneously want to make me the young brother of the original Kasongo. Are they in order to do that?

I have just come back, Madam Speaker.

Mr Mwene: Kasongo ndiwe.

Mr B. Mpundu: I have not even settled down.

Are they in order to refer to me as the young brother of the original Kasongo?

I seek your indulgence, Madam Speaker.

Laughter

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon.  Members!

 I think, we all know that the person who raised the point of order is always addressed as the hon. Member for Nkana. So, that is the name that we know. When we are in Committees of the Whole House, he is Mr Binwell Mpundu. Those are the names that are officially known in this House. We do not know the other name. Maybe, it is a newly acquired name, but the situation is exactly what I have explained. So, hon. Member, if you have another name, inform us officially. Otherwise, he is Hon. Mpundu. So, hon. Member, you were out of order.

 Mr B. Mpundu: He must apologise.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning, do you still remember the question?

Dr Musokotwane: Yes, I do, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Thank you.

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, the question was: Are we still going to pursue prudent policies in view of what we have attained, so far? The answer is definitely yes, because, indeed, we have made progress, but there is still a lot that needs to be done. We still need to work very hard to keep on attracting investment into our country, so that young people who are coming out of schools and colleges can be absorbed into jobs, just like the way some of us did when we left school. We left secondary school and five jobs were waiting for us. We had to choose one out of the five. That is still possible if we work very hard. I am sure that this is something that this Administration is going to achieve.

 Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Kang’ombe (Kamfinsa): Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister is aware that there is a common issue that keeps being raised by most people who have asked him supplementary questions, and this is the cost of living.

Madam Speaker, if, today, you commissioned a team of parliamentarians to go to unplanned settlements in Zambia to ask people if they can afford goods and services, you will discover that the cost of living is still high. The reality is that despite the credit rating improving, we still have people who are not able to afford goods and services.

Madam Speaker, what is the hon. Minister doing about the cost of living? I want his response to be specifically on the issue of the cost of living. It is very easy to build infrastructure. It is easy to build a 1 x 3 classroom block. The issue is the cost of living. Our people want to afford goods and services.   

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, it is not easy to build classrooms or social infrastructure, in general. This is why there have been so many Governments that have existed and have not done these things.

Mr Kambita: It requires discipline!

Dr Musokotwane: It requires discipline, indeed, as Hon. Kambita says. So, please, do not try to under play the success of building schools, hiring teachers, making children sit on desks, and having running water in villages and clinics. These are positive things that should not be underplayed.

Madam Speaker, with regard to the high cost of living, the hon. Member and others imply that it is a new thing. No, it is not. The high cost of living has been a problem for many years. In fact, inflation rate now is even lower than before. In the past, it was high. The cost of living has been high for quite some time. The issue is what do we do about it. There are a number of things that are being done. The first one is to ensure that jobs are created. As the Government, we have already provided more than 40,000 jobs in the public sector, but there are many more jobs being created in the private sector. Jobs have relevance in terms of the cost of living because if one has no income, even something costing K5 or K3, is a big problem. So, this is why this Government keeps talking about job creation for both the public and the private sectors. Putting somebody in employment alone provides a big relief in terms of the cost of living.

Secondly, let me also talk about productivity. As a country, I am sure this is something that we have confront in the future. We need to raise productivity. We should not expect anyone to go around and force people to lower prices of commodities. It is like me going to someone’s farm and tell him to lower the price of cabbage from K10 to K4.  That will not happen. So, the alternative way of dealing with the high cost of living is to have high income. This means that if I bought cabbage at K10 when my income was K100, and price remained at K10 when my salary increased to K500, it means that my cost of living issue has been solved.  For salaries to increase, Zambia has to increase productivity…

Mr Mubika: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: …so that each person produces more than what they produced before. The problem of high cost of living, as I said, is not going to be resolved by pushing prices down. Okay, there will be a few who will do that but for the prices in general, we should not expect them to go down. We should work very hard to make sure that productivity, salaries and wages increase. This is how people all over the world have solved the problem of poverty.

Madam Speaker, lastly, I want to say that there are some individuals who are vulnerable because they are aged or have physical disabilities. This is where social protection moves in. This Government has done very well on that.

Ms Tambatamba: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: We had a very devastating drought ...

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: … but due to the way it was managed, there was food everywhere.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: Cash-for-Work and school feeding programmes were introduced everywhere.

Mr B. Mpundu: Question!

Dr Musokotwane: So, these are things that we should do to take care of those who are vulnerable. We need to provide them with cushion incomes.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Dr Musokotwane: So, in my view Madam Speaker, this Government has done more than any other Government to address the issue of the cost of living. We should remember the drought of 2019, certainly in my constituency when mealie meal or maize came for relief …

Mr Mubika: Maize bran in Shangombo!

Dr Musokotwane: …it was being given to party cadres only. The rest of the community members were told that they were not going to receive mealie meal unless if they were members of the party.

Madam Speaker, I think I am justified in saying that this Government has done a lot to address issues concerning the livelihoods of the people.

I thank you.

Mr Nkandu: Quality!

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ANNOUNCEMENT BY MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER

CORRECTION FROM MKUSHI NORTH TO MKUSHI SOUTH

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, yesterday when I requested the hon. Member for Mkushi South, Hon. Chisopa to leave the House, I wrongly mentioned Mkushi North instead of Mkushi South.

The hon. Member who was asked to leave the House was Hon. Chisopa, Member for Mkushi South.

I thank you.

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BILLS

SECOND READING

THE ZAMBIA REVENUE AUTHORITY (Amendment) BILL, 2025

The Minister of Finance and National Planning (Dr Musokotwane): Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the Zambia Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill, N.A.B. No. 22 of 2025, be read a second time.

Madam Speaker, the Bill before this House is principally seeking to amend the Zambia Revenue Authority Act so as to:

1. revise the function of the governing Board of the Authority;
2. provide for the exchange of information; and
3. provide for matters connected with or incidental to the forgoing.

Madam Speaker, the Bill is straightforward and I commend it to the House.

I thank you.

Ms Sefulo (Mwandi): Madam Speaker, the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters was tasked to scrutinise the Zambia Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill, N.A.B. No. 22 of 2025, pursuant to its mandate as set out in Standing Order No. 207(j) of the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024.

Madam Speaker, let me state from the outset that the Committee is in support of the Bill. This is notwithstanding the fact that some stakeholders had raised concerns of which the Committee makes the following observations and recommendations:

Madam Speaker, the Committee observes that the Zambia Revenue Authority, with its statutory powers and information asymmetry and regulatory influence, has the potential to create undue advantage on any legal entity it establishes, supports or affiliates with, thereby, distorting markets and undermining private investment. In view of this, the Committee recommends that measures be put in place to ensure competitive neutrality, clear statutory mandates and independent oversight on the proposed legal entities.

Madam Speaker, the Committee also observes with concern that the Bill does not specify governance frameworks for legal entities provided under Section 11(c), how they will be ringfenced, the applicable audit and procurement regimes, conflict of interest rules, reporting lines or competition compliance. The Committee, therefore, recommends that the Bill provides for any penalties unique to the misuse of confidential information by such entities.

Madam Speaker, the Committee further observed that a legal entity, as provided under Section 11(c) of the Bill, is meant to be separate from the Zambia Revenue Authority (ZRA) and to exist as a body corporate. It, therefore, contends that automatic information sharing, as provided under Clause 5 of the Bill, may conflict with The Access to Information Act No. 24 of 2023, which places limitations on access to information in relation to private data, personal data or other forms of information that are not subject to pro-active disclosure. In this regard, the Committee recommends that the clause be amended to provide for the limiting of information exchange with other legal entities, thereby, safeguarding the rights to privacy and protection of personal data under The Access to Information, 2023 and The Data Protection Act No. 3 of 2021.

 Madam Speaker, in conclusion, and on behalf of the Committee members, I wish to express our deepest gratitude to you and the Office of the Clerk of the National Assembly of Zambia for the guidance and support rendered to the Committee throughout its deliberations. The Committee is further indebted to all the witnesses who appeared before it for their co-operation in providing necessary briefs.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Dr Musokotwane: Madam Speaker, I would like to thank the Committee. Its comments have been well noted, and they will be considered as we move forward.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Question put and agreed to and the Bill read a second time.

Committed to a committee of the Whole House.

Committee on Wednesday, 10^th December, 2025.

THE REGISTRATION OF BUSINESS NAMES (Amendment) BILL, 2025

The Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry (Mr Chipoka Mulenga): Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the Bill be now read a second time.

Madam Speaker, on behalf of my ministry, I wish to express my gratitude to the chairperson of the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters for supporting the Bill.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: You are supposed to read the principles of the Bill.

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: Yes, Madam Speaker. One second. I have mixed up my papers.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Take your time.

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Hear, hear!

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: Hear, hear!

Laughter

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: Madam Speaker, the objects of the Bill are to amend the Registration of Business Names Act to provide for:

1. the disclosure of beneficial information by a firm that is a corporation;
2. the retention by the registrar of records of a business name whose certificate has been cancelled for a specified period; and 
3. provide for matters connected with, or incidental to, the foregoing.

 I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Ms Sefulo (Mwandi): Madam Speaker, the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters was tasked to scrutinise the Registration of Business Names (Amendment) Bill, No. 26 of 2025, pursuant to its mandate as set out in Order 207(j) of the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024.

 Madam Speaker, I wish to state from the outset that the Committee is in support of the Bill and all the stakeholders who appeared before the Committee were also in support. Some witnesses raised a few concerns, on which the Committee made observations and recommendations.

Madam Speaker, the Committee observed with concern that the introduction of a 5 per cent threshold for substantial economic benefit provided under Clause 2 potentially differs from the 25 per cent threshold commonly used in the Companies Act No. 10 of 2017 and in many jurisdictions when defining beneficial ownership for company law and anti-money laundering purposes.

Madam Speaker, the Committee is of the strong view that the misalignment may cause uncertainty for regulated entities, professionals, advisors and enforcement agencies regarding which thresholds apply in different statutes for various purposes. The Committee, therefore, recommends that an explicit alignment clause be introduced to state that beneficial ownership thresholds under the principal Act shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the Companies Act No. 10 of 2017 and the Financial Intelligence Centre Act No. 46 of 2010, unless otherwise expressly provided.

Madam Speaker, the Committee also observed that while the Registration of Business Names Act, Chapter 389 of the Laws of Zambia, provides for offences of failure to provide information and for false statements, the offences were designed before beneficial ownership transparency became a core policy objective and may not have been calibrated to address the highlighted risk associated with deliberate concealment of beneficial ownership. In this regard, the Committee recommends that a clause be introduced to provide for beneficial ownership offences and penalties, including for failure to identify, disclose or update beneficial ownership information and for knowingly providing false or misleading beneficial ownership information. The clause should –

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Members, the consultations are too loud. Please, lower your voices.

You may continue, hon. Member for Mwandi.

Ms Sefulo: Madam Speaker, the clause should further provide for penalties, and they must apply, not only to firms, to directors, partners, senior managers and, where appropriate, beneficial owners and professional intermediaries consistent with good practice.

Madam Speaker, in conclusion and on behalf of the hon. Members of the Committee, I wish to express my deepest gratitude to you and the Office of the Clerk of the National Assembly of Zambia for the guidance and support rendered to the Committee throughout its deliberations. The Committee is further indebted to all the witnesses who appeared before it for their co-operation in providing necessary briefs.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Chipoka Mulenga: Madam Speaker, on behalf of my ministry, I wish to express my gratitude to the chairperson of the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters for supporting the Bill. I further extend my sincere thanks to you, Madam Speaker, for the opportunity to clarify the key aspects of the Bill.

Madam Speaker, I commend the chairperson of the Committee. The report on the Floor of the House comprehensively outlined the background, objectives and key provisions of the Bill. In the interest of time, I will focus on the observations and recommendations presented in the report. I take note and will further engage stakeholders to implement the recommendations.

 Madam Speaker, in conclusion, my ministry considers this Bill a positive step towards strengthening transparency, accountability and governance in the business name registration in Zambia. The Bill aligns the legal framework with international best practices by introducing beneficial ownership, disclosure and enhancing the registrar’s verification and monitoring powers. It will help prevent misuse of business names, promote investor confidence and support economic growth by ensuring a credible and reliable registry. We, therefore, welcome the Bill and commend the Committee for its well-articulated and detailed report.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Question put and agreed to and the Bill read a second time.

Committed to a committee of the Whole House.

Committee on Wednesday, 10^th December, 2025.

THIRD READING

The following Bills were read the third time and passed:

The Independent Broadcasting Authority Bill, 2025

The Zambia National Broadcasting Corporation Bill, 2025

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COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY

[THE DEPUTY CHAIRPERSON OF COMMITTEES in the

Chair]

(Consideration resumed)

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Members, I would like to remind you that whatever amendment the hon. Minister makes reflects the ministry’s position and that of the Government. Further, any amendment made is meant to amend what the hon. Minister would have presented. As such, you should be very attentive to the proceedings of the House. Yesterday, many hon. Members were mostly out of context because they did not realise that any amendment made by the hon. Minister referred to the ministry’s budget that had been presented. Anything else would be against what has been presented. So, we should proceed as such. We should know what is at hand. I just wanted to make this call for everyone to know and realise that aspect of proceedings.

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

Let us consult quietly.

VOTE 10 – (Zambia Police Service Commission – K26,717,988)

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K26,717,988 be approved in respect of Vote 10 – Zambia Police Service Commission to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 10 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 11 – (Zambia Police Service – Ministry of Home Affairs and Internal Security – K3,768,606,288)

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K3,768,606,288 be approved in respect of Vote 11 – Zambia Police Service – Ministry of Home Affairs and Internal Security to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

Sir, I thank you.

Mr Fube (Chilubi): Mr Chairperson, on behalf of the people of Chilubi, I would like to add my voice to the debate on Vote 11 – Zambia Police Service. For starters, the what –

Hon. Government Members: Question!

Laughter

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, 77.4 per cent of the K3,768,606,288 allocation for the Zambia Police Service will go towards personal emoluments.

Mr Nkandu: Question!

Mr Fube: I think that although saying “Question!” is allowed, but he is disturbing me very much.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Member, you may proceed.

Mr Fube: Yes, but I need to be protected.

The Deputy Chairperson: You may proceed. You are already protected.

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, I was saying that 77.4 per cent of the K3,768,606,288 allocation for the Zambia Police Service will go towards personal emoluments. You need to realise that this Government department draws its powers from Article 193, which, among other things, is meant to promote human rights, secure peace, and other factors. Further, in the Eighth National Development Plan (8NDP), the Zambia Police Service is under the category of good governance.

Mr Nkandu: Question!

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, I do not think that this is a favourable environment for debate. The hon. Minister is louder than the debater.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Members, let us ensure that there is tranquillity in the House.

Mr Kafwaya and Ms Nyirenda were chatting.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Members for Lundazi and Lunte, do not hug yourselves in the House.

Ms Nyirenda: Apologies, Sir.

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, what I was trying to underscore is that the Zambia Police Service falls under the category of good governance. If it falls under the category of good governance, then the service is expected to serve all of us to create a good governance environment. Apart from that, good governance is further broken down into the outcomes of the 8NDP.

Mr Chairperson, I will narrow it down to how the budget has been shared. The Crime Detection and Investigation Services has been allocated the highest portion. The second highest portion has been allocated for public safety and support for the prosecution of offenders. The third highest portion has been allocated for Police Technical and Specialised Services. If we check the Yellow Book and look at the table of activities, we will see that there is nothing that directly speaks to good governance environment. There is nothing that directly speaks to the issue of human rights, yet , one of the issues under Article 193 is that the police is supposed to handle promotion of human rights.

Mr Chairperson, it is also worrying that the police service has  been weaponised to serve the interests not of the Government but of the Ruling party. This is not what the Constitution states. The other week, a very senior police officer was delivering what is almost a campaign message, which can come from only a political party. I think that is not what is stated in the 8NDP. That is not what is stated in the Constitution.

Mr Chairperson, if I had my way, I would balance certain services and programmes, such as police and the community, and create a relationship between the police and communities. In any case, what we are supposed to concentrate on now are modern policing methods. However, what has been arrayed in the budget is the same old method of policing, not modern policing methods. We still have a police force as opposed to a police service. The money that has been allocated for the police beats the money that has been allocated to many ministries. For me, the status of the police does not serve my interest. As I stated, the police should not be allocated this money because it is not serving the public interest.

Mr Chairperson, I thank you.

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, I have noticed that the hon. Member of Parliament for Chilubi was enjoying the general debate. He was not looking at the figures, as they are. So, what he said requires and deserves a response from me, as the hon. Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security.

Mr Chairperson, the hon. Member has questioned the professionalism of the current police service. He has also indicated that the Zambia Police Service has been weaponised against the Opposition. I want to state, without fear of any contradiction, that professionalism in the Zambia Police Service has improved, compared to the era of the Patriotic Front (PF) regime. I would like to give examples of how the police service was weaponised during the reign of the PF.

Sir, the United Party for National Development (UPND) participated in a by-election in Chilubi. That election was the most brutal by-election in the history of this country. Members of the Opposition were maimed and brutalised by the Zambia Police Service then, under the instruction of the Ruling Party at that time. I have examples of hon. Members of Parliament who were brutalised during that reign. Hon. Mubanga was brutalised. After brutalising him, they jailed him in Milima Prison, on charges that were fabricated by the PF, working with its cohort, the Zambia Police Service. However, the Judiciary found that Hon. Mubanga had no case. It was a fabricated matter. As if that was not enough, the police was  made to stop the Opposition from hiring boats in Chilubi. That was weaponising the Zambia Police Service.

Mr Amutike: Fube, you are aware of that!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Now, we have made sure that the police service is  not weaponised.

Mr Fube: It is a lie!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, in Sesheke, we witnessed the firing of live ammunition by police under the influence and the charge of the PF Government; it is on record. I would like to give an example; my vehicle had to be lifted on a truck from Sesheke because it was extensively damaged as a result of the bullets from the police under the charge of the PF. Evidence is there. The ones who were in charge then are here. So, what weaponisation is he talking about? Can he lay evidence of the weaponised police currently?

Mr Fube: On a point of order, Mr Chairperson.

Interruptions

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: I am responding to the issues he raised.

Hon. Government Members: Do not raise them.

Mr Mwiimbu SC.: Mr Chairperson, during that period, we witnessed police being instructed not to allow any of us to campaign in certain areas. They never complained. They were very happy thinking that they would win. That is what they thought. Even now, they are dreaming that they will come back. I do not know under which organisation they will come back to this House because they have no facility that will facilitate them to come here.

Mr Chairperson, at Chipata Airport, our President was stopped from disembarking from the plane by the police under the charge of his party. I do not know who was in charge.

Hon. UPND Members: Kampyongo!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, under our charge, the police have been restraining themselves, even to firing or discharging any ammunition against the Opposition, even under very extreme conditions. In Chingola, they did not discharge any firearm against the people who were misbehaving and rioting because of professionalism. That is professionalism. During the PF period, there would have been mayhem in this country. There would have been bloodshed. It therefore, follows that professionalism in the Zambia Police Service is now entrenched unlike in the reign of the PF.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

The Deputy Chairperson:  Thank you, hon. Minister.

Hon. Members, let us avoid having a general debate because it will attract a political reaction. Let us ensure we just talk to the documents and debate accordingly. So, any statement or debate made politically related will be met with a political reaction as a response. So, let me proceed. 

  Vote 11 ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

    VOTE 12 – (Office of the Public Protector – K39,372,381)

The Minister of Defence and Acting Leader of Government Business (Mr Lufuma):  Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K39,372,381 be approved in respect of Head –12, Office of the Public Protector to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

Mr Kafwaya (Lunte):  Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment on page 130, Table 5: Programme Budget Allocation by Sub-Programme: 

Under Programme 4171: Mal-administration Redress Services, Sub-programme 001: Mal-administration Investigations, by the deletion of K20,016,022 and the substitution therefor of K50,016,022.

Question that Vote 12 be amended put and negatived.

Vote 12 ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Interruptions

Mr Simumba: Follow the procedure.

Mr Kafwaya: I gave notice

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Member, as hon. Members, as we move these amendments, we should try to be inducted because at the point when you are called, you are required to present your amendment. So, these are procedural notes. So, I called you to present your amendment –

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

 Hon. Chisanga, you are also arguing about things you do not know.

Laughter

The Deputy Chairperson: The hon. Member was called. So, if there was an anomaly, what should I do? I proceed.

Laughter

The Deputy Chairperson: So, let me proceed. My time is ticking. I have twenty-four Heads to look at.

 Hon. PF Members: You should follow the procedure.

The Deputy Chairperson: The amendment falls off.

Hon. PF Members: Ah!

The Deputy Chairperson: The amendment falls off. The people have said no to it.

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: So, let us proceed.

  VOTE 15 – (Ministry of Home Affairs and Internal Security – K751,160,908)

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.):  Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K751,160,908 be approved in respect of Head15, Ministry of Home Affairs and Internal Security, to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Sir.

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K757,160,908 be approved in respect of Vote 15 – Ministry of Home Affairs and Internal Security, in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book, be amended on page 155, Table 3: Budget Allocation by Programme and Sub-Programme.

1. Under: Programme 4176, Legal identity, Civil Registration and Citizenship Services; Sub-Programme 001 Civil Registration Services by the deletion of K3,226,778 and the substitution therefor of K9,312,551.

 

1. Under: Programme 4176, Legal identity, Civil Registration and Citizenship Services; Sub-Programme 002 National Registration Services by the deletion of K304,543,530 and the substitution therefor of K258,457,757.

 

1. Under: Programme 4176, Legal identity, Civil Registration and Citizenship Services; Sub-Programme 004 Provincial Registration Administration by the deletion of K4,055,065 and the substitution therefor K44,055,066.

 

1. Under: Programme 4177, National Archives Services; Sub-Programme 001 National Archives Services by the deletion of K12,072,948 and substitution therefor of K13,072,948.

 

1. Under: Programme 4178, Societies Regulations and Standards; Sub-Programme 001 Societies Regulations and Standards by the deletion of K5,253,057 and the substitution therefor of K6,253,057.

 

1. Under: Programme 4179, Internal Security and Support Services; Sub-Programme 002 Anti-Terrorism and Non-Proliferation by the deletion of K39,967,673 and the substitution therefor of K29,967,673.

 

1. Under: Programme 4179, Internal Security and Support Services; Sub-Programme 006 Anti-Human Trafficking by the deletion of K5,556,701 and the substitution therefor of K6,556,701.

 

1. Under: Programme 4199, Management and Support Services; Sub-Programme 001 Executive Office Management by the deletion of K2,448,167 and the substitution therefor of K3,448,167.

 

1. Under: Programme 4199, Management and Support Services; Sub-Programme 002 Human Resources management and Administration by the deletion of K42,162,238 and the substitution therefor of K43,162,238.

 

1. Under: Programme 4199, Management and Support Services; Sub-Programme 004 Financial Management and Accounting by the deletion of K6,324,159 and the substitution therefor of K7,324,159.

 

1. Under: Programme 4199, Management Support Services; Sub ­ Programme 005 Procurement Management by the deletion of K542,141 and the substitution therefor of K1,542,141.

 

1. Under: Programme 4199, Management and Support Services; Sub-Programme 006 Planning and Policy Co-ordination by the deletion of K16,262,056 and the substitution therefor of K17,262,056.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr Kafwaya: On a point of order, Mr Chairperson.

Mr B. Mpundu: There is an indication for a point of order here.

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

Avoid debating whilst seated. I am in charge of the House.

Laughter

The Deputy Chairperson: Do not disturb my work.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 15, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 16 – (Drug Enforcement Commission – K288,061,217)

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K288,061,217 be approved in respect of Vote 16 – Drug Enforcement Commission, in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 16 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 18 – (Judiciary – K1,073,593,874)

Mr Mwiimbu, SC. (on behalf of the Minister of Justice (Ms Kasune)): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,073,593,874 be approved in respect of Vote 18 – Judiciary, in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

 

Vote 18 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 25 – (Local Government Service Commission – K25,346,635)

The Minister of Local Government and Rural Development (Mr Sialubalo): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K25,346,635 be approved in respect of Vote 25 ­– Local Government Service Commission, to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr B. Mpundu (Nkana): Mr Chairperson, I apologise to my elder brother, the hon. Minister of Local Government and Rural Development, whom we get very along very well.

Interruptions

Hon. UPND Members: Get along very well.

Mr B. Mpundu: Yes. Get along very well. I have been away. So, necisungu nindaba. Forgive me.

Mr Chairperson, the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development has been mandated to undertake the enhanced Constituency Development Fund (CDF), which is the United Party for National Development’s (UPND) flagship programme.

Mr Mabeta: Exactly!

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Chairperson, we are appropriating resources that will go towards actualising that ambitious programme. For four years now, we have lamented the bureaucracy surrounding the effective implementation of the CDF. It would interest you to note, because I know that you are also an hon. Member who faces similar problems as I do, that sadly, 2025 is ending, but there are certain programmes or projects, as my case may be, that should have been undertaken. ­

The Deputy Chairperson: Order, hon. Member!

I know you are well aware of the rules and regulations, and our Standing Orders.

Mr B. Mpundu: Yes.

The Deputy Chairperson: Do you know what general debate is?

Mr B. Mpundu: Yes.

The Deputy Chairperson: Do you know the kind of debate we are having now?

Mr B. Mpundu: Yes.

The Deputy Chairperson: So, confine your contribution to dissecting and scrutinising the Budget. Now, instead of doing that, you are off shooting. Proceed as guided or else I will curtail your debate.

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Chairperson, unless the word “scrutiny” has lost its meaning, but it means that we speak to –

Mr Nkandu: Question!

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Member for Nkana, I have guided you. Why are you trying to be controversial?

Resume your seat.

Mr B. Mpundu remained upstanding.

The Deputy Chairperson: Resume your seat.

Mr B. Mpundu resumed his seat.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Member, I have guided you, but you want to argue with me. Are you the Chairperson? I have guided you that this is not time for general debate. We have the Budget before us. The public is ready to listen to what has been presented in the Budget, but you are busy debating. This is not high school.

Laughter

The Deputy Chairperson: You may proceed as guided.

Mr B. Mpundu: Mr Chairperson, I have nothing to ask.

The Deputy Chairperson: Alright, let me proceed, my brother.

Vote 25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 29 – (Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development – K10,397,434,615)

Mr Sialubalo: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K10,397,434,615 be approved in respect of Vote 29 – Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development to meet expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr Zulu (Nyimba): Mr Chairperson, I have seen an increase in the allocation for rural infrastructure development from K406,603,499 in the 2025 Budget to K771,897,472 in the 2026 Budget.

Mr Chairperson, the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development is one of the important ministries in this country. I seek clarification on Programme 5536 – Sub-Programmes 4003 and 9006. This ministry is vital in our country. Looking at the execution rate of the Budget, it is one of the highest in the country and sometimes it is very difficult for the hon. Minister to use all the allocated funds for his ministry.  

Mr Chairperson, my question is not only directed to the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development, but also to the Ministry of Finance and National Planning. Looking at the allocations and undeveloped areas in our constituencies, are we going to see an execution rate of over 80 per cent in 2026 so that we can support this Budget as Parliament?

Mr Sialubalo: Mr Chairperson, I am still fidgeting with the pages. If permitted, I would ask my dear hon. Colleague to go through the pages again so that I can give him a measured response. So, I am requesting that he mentions the page that he wants me to attend to.

The Deputy Chairperson: We should take note when hon. Members are seeking clarification and write somewhere.

Mr Zulu: Mr Chairperson, I seek clarification on Programme 5536 – Rural Development – Sub-Programme 4003 – Infrastructure Development – K767,100,191 and Sub-Programme 9006 – Rural Development Co-ordination – K4,797,281. We have noted that the Government has increased the allocation for that programme. I commend the Government for the bold decision it has taken to increase the financing for rural development from K406,603,499 to K771,897,472. 

Mr Chairperson, my question is directed at the hon. Minister of Local Government and Rural Development and the hon. Minister of Finance and National Planning. Both hon. Ministers and I come from rural constituencies. They have seen how we have been struggling for the Government to fund certain projects. So, my question is: Are we seeing an increase in the execution rate in 2026 to above 80 or 90 per cent so that our local infrastructure can be worked on without having problems of funding?

Mr Sialubalo: Mr Chairperson, looking at the increase in the Budget, it means activities will also increase. However, what I cannot do is to give a response in percentage terms. The hon. Member asked if the percentages will increase to 80 or 90 per cent. I can assure him that there will be a lot of improvement because of the increase in funds.

Mr Chairperson, I thank you.

Vote 29 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 30 – (Zambia Correctional Service – K1,335,672,726)

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,335,672,726 be approved in respect of Vote 30 – Zambia Correctional Service to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 30 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

Business was suspended from 1640 hours until 1700 hours.

[THE DEPUTY CHAIRPERSON OF COMMITTEES in the

Chair]

VOTE 31 – (Ministry of Justice – K 1,455,461,231).

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security (Mr Mwiimbu, S.C.) (on behalf of the Minister of Justice (Ms Kasune)): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,455,461,231 be approved in respect of Vote 31 – Ministry of Justice, to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, on behalf of the people of Chilubi, I would like to indicate that the budget for the Ministry of Justice is the most imbalanced budget for the following reasons. The ministry has been allocated K1,455,461,231. A few minutes ago, we were looking at the budget for the Zambia Police Service, which is K3,768,606,288. We really need to apply ourselves. Legal Services, Good Governance and Human Rights, and Management Support Services all fall under this particular budget. My attention is drawn to one particular item, which is liabilities. When you look at this item, you will see that there is an item called Compensation Fund, which has been allocated K810,159,000. When you look at the amount to the legal services component, you will see that it is about 64 per cent of the budget for legal services. Of the total budget for the Ministry of Justice, the legal services component has gobbled 86.5 per cent. As they say, the devil is in the details. The allocation for the legal services is competing with the allocation for transfers, which stands at US$380 million.

Mr Nkandu: Question!

Mr Fube: You can say, “Question!” but you will not deter me.

Mr Chairperson, when you look at what has been tabulated on page 335 of the Yellow Book, you will find that the Ministry of Justice is supposed to spend about a whooping K14 billion for Compensation Funds. Meanwhile, what has been budgeted for here is just 5.7 per cent of what the ministry is supposed to pay under compensations. This means that the Ministry of Justice still has a heavy burden in as far as meeting compensation funds is concerned. Some of the funds for compensation will come from external liabilities. This means that it is important for the Government to look at things realistically. Some of that debt should be shifted to join the external debt. This is because it is the same Zambia that is still contracting debt but through legal services. This becomes a liability for the Ministry of Justice. The Ministry of Justice has budgeted only K810,159,000 for the Compensation Fund. This is a mockery because this amount is just 5 per cent of what the ministry is supposed to pay.

Mr Nkandu interjected.

Mr Fube: I know you do not understand the issues I am talking about, so you will not hinder me.

Mr Chairperson, what I am simply saying is that, we have told the ministry to go ahead and pay compensation, but the amount that has been allocated is a mockery. The ministry is under pressure. So, what we need to do is look at the real debts that we have under the Compensation Fund. In any case, you find that if the hon. Minister of Youth, Sport and Arts claims that a gun was pointed at him, he will be compensated, but other people are not compensated.

Laughter

Hon.  UPND Members: Question!

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, I was supposed to say something unparliamentary, but it is okay.

Laughter

Mr Fube: Mr Chairperson, what I was trying to underscore is that a huge amount; 64.3 per cent of the budget of the Ministry of Justice, has been allocated for legal services. This amount is too much, so more than 94.3 per cent of debt under the ministry has not been attended to. Budgeting is done for the purpose of meeting the needs of a particular ministry. In this case, specifically the Compensation Fund, we have not done much. We have not budgeted to meet the needs of the ministry.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

The hon. Member's time expired.

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, I have listened to the lamentations of my hon. Colleague, the hon. Member of Parliament for Chilubi. I have taken note of them. However, we must realise that there is a law that regulates the Compensation Fund, and because there is a law that regulates the Compensation Fund, we cannot remove the budget provision from the Ministry of Justice to the Ministry of Finance and National Planning. Even the other debts contracted are managed differently from the Compensation Fund. I have noted that that is the only issue he raised.

Mr Chairperson, I thank you.

Vote 31 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 39 – (Smart Zambia Institute – K1,446,704,225)

The Minister of Defence and Acting Leader of Government Business in the House (Mr Lufuma): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K994,587,729 be approved in respect of Head 39 – Smart –

The Deputy Chairperson: Order, hon. Minister!

Sorry, I have different figures. What figure did you mention?

Mr Lufuma: K994 –

The Deputy Chairperson: No, read this one.

The hon. Minister was handed another paper.

The Deputy Chairperson: You are going to cut short the Budget.

Mr Lufuma: Oh, okay.

Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,446,704,225 be approved in respect of Head 39 – Smart Zambia Institute, in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 39 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 14 – (Ministry of Mines and Minerals Development – K1,202,141,130)

 The Minister of Mines and Minerals Development (Mr Kabuswe): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,202,141,130 be approved in respect of Head 14 – Ministry of Mines and Minerals Development to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Minister, repeat the figure.

Mr Kabuswe: The figure is K1,202,141,130.

The Deputy Chairperson: Okay, thank you very much, hon. Minister.

Vote 14 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 17 – (Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation –K2,710,312,648)

The Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation (Mr Haimbe, SC.): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K2,710,312,648 be approved in respect of Head 17– Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 17 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 21 – (Loans and Investment – Minister of Finance and National Planning –K2,761,593,498)

The Minister of Finance and National Planning (Dr Musokotwane): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K2,761,593,498 be approved in respect of Head 21 – Loans and Investment – Ministry of Finance and National Planning in line with the programs as outlined in the Yellow Book.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr Kafwaya (Lunte) Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendments:

1.     on Page 239, Table 5: Programme Budget Allocation by Sub-Programme:

 

          Under Programme 3441: Centralised Strategic Payments, Sub-programme 001: Dismantling of Arrears, by the deletion of K4,660,024,146 and the substitution therefor of K7,160,024,146;

 

1.     on Page 240, Table 5: Programme Budget Allocation by Sub-Programme:

 

          Under Programme 3449: Centralised Holding Vote, Sub-programme 002: Centralised Recruitment, by the deletion of K684,751,334 and the substitution therefor of K184,751,334; 

 

1.      on Page 240, Table 5: Programme Budget Allocation by Sub-Programme:

 

          Under Programme 3449: Centralised Holding Vote, Sub-programme 003: Public Service Pay Policy, by the deletion of K2,538,584,483 and the substitution therefor of K538,584,483; and

 

1. on Page 239, Table 5: Programme Budget Allocation by Sub-programme 001: Dismantling of Arrears, by the deletion of K4,660,024,146 and the substitution therefor of K4,661,224,146.

 

Mr Chairperson, I would like to recommend to the House that we move K6 billion from K27.7 billion, and take it to Vote 37.

Hon. UPND Member: Question!

Mr Kafwaya: Mr Chairperson, Vote 7, where I am asking for this money to come from, and Vote 21, are both under the Ministry of Finance and National Planning. That means there is no law that this House will contravene. The area which I am requesting that the money be taken is the dismantling of arrears. We are taking this money specifically from centralised recruitment, K2 million from the Centralised Holding Vote, and another K2 million from human resource management.

Mr Chairperson, as a nation, our domestic arrears are K84.1 billion, but the Government has provided for only K4.7 billion. This is a bad signal to all those who are doing business with the Government. Therefore, I am saying that we give the dismantling of arrears a decent amount. Let us make it K10.7 billion so that more of those whose money is held by the Government can be paid. Then, we will have more money in circulation and companies will not fold, and will be able to continue in business. Taking money from centralised recruitment is not something anyone can think hard about because why should the Ministry of Finance and National Planning undertake recruitment when we have the Public Service Management Division (PSMD), which has been allocated very little money?

Mr Chairperson, where else can we take money from? The Centralised Holding Vote is for when you do not know what you will pay for. So, you hold money as you are unaware of where it will be deployed, yet you have arrears worth K84.1 billion. My recommendation is that we take part of that money. I am not saying that we take everything from the allocation the Government does not know what it will pay for, but what I am saying is that we take K2 billion and take it towards a Vote under which the Government knows it owes people. These are Zambians, people who need to be paid.

Mr Chairperson, the hon. Minister should also consider taking some money from human resource management. When you look at how much money has been allocated to human resource management within the Ministry of Finance and National Planning, you will note that the figure is astronomical. You might ask why human resource management under the Ministry of Finance and National Planning should be more costly than human resource management under the Cabinet Office. All civil servants should be managed under the Cabinet Office. Meaningful budgets should be made on both ends. The Government should reduce this amount, get K2 billion, and take it towards the dismantling of arrears. When it does so, it will pay the people it owes, and everyone will be happy and, maybe, the United Party for National Development (UPND) can be praised for doing the right thing.

Mr Chairperson, I thank you.

Hon. UPND Members: Question!

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Chairperson, I would like to thank Hon. Kafwaya for that request, which, unfortunately, I have to turn down. The reason is that the centralised amount that he is talking about is money put aside for the recruitment of civil servants whom we announced in the Budget, some being teachers and medical staff. The practice for a long time, even when Hon. Kafwaya was a Minister, is that there is an allocation for recruitment, and this is the way in which this matter is handled. As soon as the recruitments are done, those under education and health are deployed, then, the amounts are equally subdivided, and taken to the relevant ministries.

Mr Chairperson, the hon. Member has said that when we pay arrears, money will circulate. It depends on who you are, because if you are a child waiting for a teacher to be available, and the teacher is made available, money circulates to you. If you are a patient waiting for treatment from somebody, and medical staff are hired, money circulates to you. So, we must be careful when we talk about the circulation of money, because this is precisely the mistake that was made in the past. Millions of children all over the country who have no collective voice and cannot lobby at Parliament or at the ministries since they were in Liuwa, Katete or Mansa, failed to go to school because money was not circulating to them. Now, money is circulating to them. So, we have to balance the interests of those who made business decisions, who took risks to do business with the Government, and the interests of the weak, who do not have a voice. Will we only focus on the interests of those who are still running businesses, and forget the interests of the weak? I say no. This is how we left many people behind in our country. So, I do not accept Hon. Kafwaya’s argument.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Interruptions

Vote 21 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 23 – (National Immigration Services – K389,044,580)

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K389,044,580 be approved in respect of Vote 23 – National Immigration Services to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Interruptions

Mr Kafwaya: On a Point of Order, Mr Chairperson.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Member, let us avoid debating whilst seated. Hon. Kafwaya, you have too much energy today.

Laughter

Ms Mulenga: He is happy that his amendment has passed.

The Deputy Chairperson: Let us avoid debating whilst seated.

Mr Kafwaya: Kanshi yapita?

Mr Chairperson, I just wanted to –

The Deputy Chairperson: May you resume your seat.

Mr Kafwaya resumed his seat.

 

Vote 23 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 28 – (Emoluments Commission – K102,781,582)

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K102,781,582 be approved in respect of Vote 28 – Emoluments Commission to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

The Deputy Chairperson: I put the question that K102,781,582 be approved in respect of Vote 28 – Emoluments Commission in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book. As many as are of that opinion say, “Aye”.

Hon. Government Members: Aye (in a low tone).

The Deputy Chairperson: I will put the question again. This is the Budget you are approving you people (addressing hon. Government Members).

Mr Kasandwe: It is your Budget.

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

I put the question that K102,781,582 be approved in respect of Vote 28 – Emoluments Commission in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book. As many as are of that opinion say, “Aye”.

Hon. Government Members: Aye!

Vote 28 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 33 – (Ministry of Commerce, Trade and Industry – K1,895,934,804)

Mr Haimbe, SC. (on behalf of the Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry (Mr Chipoka Mulenga)): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,895,934,804 be approved in respect of Vote 33 – Ministry of Commerce, Trade and Industry to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Dr Musokotwane: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K1,895,934,804 in respect of Vote 33 – Ministry of Commerce, Trade and Industry in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book, be amended on page 347, Table 3: Budget Allocation by Programme and Sub-Programme:

1. Under: Programme 2113, Industrial and Enterprise Development; Sub-Programme 3004 Industrial Research and Development; by the deletion of K1,393,716,529 and substitution therefor of K1,353,716,529.

 

1. Under: Programme 2113, Industrial and Enterprise Development; by the insertion of Sub-Programme 006 Trade and Investment Promotion with an amount of K40,000,000.

Amendment put and agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 33, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 34 – (Human Rights Commission – K56,474,451)

Mr Haimbe, SC. (on behalf of the Minister of Justice (Ms Kasune)): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K56,474,451 be approved in respect of Vote 34 – Human Rights Commission in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 34 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51 – (Ministry of Transport and Logistics – K 619,585,709).

The Minister of Tourism (Mr Sikumba) (on behalf of the Minister of Transport and Logistics (Mr Tayali)): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K619,585,709 be approved in respect of Vote 51 – Ministry of Transport and Logistics, in line with the programmes as outlined in the Yellow Book to meet the expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2036.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr Zulu (Nyimba): Mr Chairperson, may I have clarification on Programme 2115, Sub-Programme 05 – Tanzania-Zambia Railway Authority – K17,250,000. Recently, the hon. Minister was celebrating that the Government has engaged the Chinese to take over the railway line from Dar es Salaam to Kapiri Mposhi. For the past two years, the allocation for Programme 2115, Sub-Programme 07 – Mulobezi Railway – K1,000,000 has been the same. Why are we allocating more funds for the Tanzania-Zambia Railway Authority and nothing for the Zambia Railways Limited (ZRL)? I just need clarity on that.

Mr Sikumba: Mr Chairperson, apologies. May I just request the hon. Member to rephrase the question.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Zulu, repeat the question.

Mr Zulu: Mr Chairperson, I know that the hon. Minister is busy thinking about elephants. So, let me rephrase the question.

Mr Chairperson, the Tanzania-Zambia Railway Authority has been given K17,250,000 while Mulobezi Railway has been given K1,000,000 for 2026. We all know and understand the challenges of Mulobezi Railway, but I cannot see an allocation for ZRL. Recently, the hon. Minister of Transport and Logistics came to this House and reported that the Government has agreed to work on the Tanzania-Zambia Railway Authority (TAZARA) with a Chinese consortium. Now, the question is: Why are we allocating K17,250,000 for this company but nothing for ZRL?

Mr Sikumba: Mr Chairperson, I do believe that the Committee had raised concern regarding the non-disbursement of the K1 million to Zambia Railways Limited (ZRL), at the time that the ministry appeared before the Committee. However, I just want to indicate that on 24^th November this year, the Treasury disbursed the K1 million to ZRL for the rehabilitation of the railway line that he is talking about.  

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr Zulu: Mr Chairperson, thank you –

The Deputy Chairperson: Mr Zulu, you have already asked your question. I thought it was another Mr Zulu about to ask a question. The hon. Minister has already clarified. So, I am putting the question. 

Vote 51 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 35 – (Ministry of Small and Medium Enterprise Development – K659,323,163)

 The Minister of Small and Medium Enterprise Development (Mr Mubanga): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K659,323,163 be approved in respect of Vote 35 – Ministry of Small and Medium Enterprise Development to meet the Expenditure for the Year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Voter 35 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 54 – (Ministry of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development – K630,251,178)

The Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation (Mr Haimbe, SC.) on behalf of (the Ministry of Infrastructure Housing and Urban Development (Eng. Milupi)): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that Vote K630,251,178 be approved in respect of Vote 54 – Ministry of Infrastructure Housing and Urban Development to meet expenditure for the year ending 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 54 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 76 – (Ministry of Youth, Sport and Arts K355,160,678)

 The Minister of Youth Sports and Arts (Mr Nkandu): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that the K355,160,678 be approved in respect of Head 76, Ministry of Youth, Sport and Arts.

The Deputy Chairperson: Hon. Minister, I did not hear your figures very well. Sorry, I am not taking advantage because you are my cousin.

Mr Nkandu: Mr Chairperson, I will repeat.

Laughter

Mr Nkandu: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that K355,160,678 be approved in respect of Vote 76 – Ministry of Youth Sport and Arts to make the expenditure for the year ending at 31^st December, 2026.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Mr Kampyongo: Question!

Laughter

Vote 76 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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HOUSE RESUMED

[ MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

(Progress reported)

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MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

The Minister of Defence and Acting Leader of Government Business in the House (Mr Lufuma): Madam Speaker, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.

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The House adjourned at 1800 hours until 0900 hours on Friday, 5^th December, 2025.

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