DAILY PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES FOR THE SECOND SESSION OF THE ELEVENTH ASSEMBLY

Tuesday, 11th December, 2012

The House met at 1430 hours 

[MR SPEAKER in the Chair]

NATIONAL ANTHEM 

PRAYER

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ANNOUNCEMENT BY MR SPEAKER

PRESENCE OF DELEGATION FROM UGANDA

Mr Speaker: Hon, Members, I wish to acquaint the House with the presence, in the Speaker’s Gallery, of the following hon. Members from Uganda:

(i)Hon. Osege Angeline, MP (Leader of the Delegation);

(ii)Hon. Biraro E. Gashanga, MP;

(iii)Hon Simbwa John, MP;

(iv)Hon. Mubito John Bosco, MP;

(v)Hon. Kyeyune H. Kasolo, MP; and 

(vi)Mr Enamu Jonathan (Secretary to the Delegation).

I wish, on behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, to receive our distinguished guests and warmly welcome them in our midst.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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MINISTERIAL STATEMENT

REALIGNMENT OF THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MOTHER AND CHILD HEALTH 

The Minister of Health (Dr Kasonde): Mr Speaker, I thank you for according me the opportunity to issue a statement in response to the point of order raised by the hon. Member of Parliament for Monze Central, Hon. Jack Mwiimbu, on the realignment of the functions of the Ministry of Health and those of the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health. I shall address three critical elements of the policy which are the rationale, implications on the Budget and staff concerns.

Sir, with regard to the rationale, I can do no better than quote my own Budget statement to the House as follows:

“In developing the ministry’s budget for 2013, we were guided by our belief in the intrinsic value of the paradigm shift which has led us to realign the functions of the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health. We are convinced that active participation of the community in our efforts to reduce maternal child health was the missing link in the attainment of the desired outcome.”

Mr Speaker, I wish to remind the House that earlier in the year, the Motion to realign functions of the Government ministries was tabled before this House and unanimously supported. This proposal included the realignment of some functions from the Ministry of Health to the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health that has since taken up an additional mandate of primary health care services.

Sir, in my policy statement on the Ministry of Health’s 2013 budget, and in the policy statement of the hon. Minister of Community Development, Mother and Child Health in support of his ministry’s budget, we emphasised the functions and budget-lines that have been realigned. In summary, the 2013 Budget presented to this august House fully outlined the realigned functions and I wish to thank the House for their support. I specifically mentioned that:

“of the K3.6 trillion total Budget allocation to the health sector, K2.2 trillion had been allocated to the Ministry of Health while the balance goes to the functions of Primary Health Care, Mother and Child Health in line with the realignment of mandates between the two ministries.”

Mr Speaker, the statement in the media released by the Secretary to the Cabinet was merely meant to inform stakeholders and co-operating partners over this realignment in conformity with the Patriotic Front (PF)’s practice of an inclusive Government. That statement read as follows:

“In line with the decision to reorganise the two ministries, an appropriate structure has been proposed under the Ministry of Community Development Headquarters for the Department of Mother and Child Health. The realignment of functions will require financial, human and material resources. The implementation process of realigned functions under the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health is estimated at a cost of K1.4 trillion which has been budgeted for in the 2013 Budget.”

Mr Speaker, may I also inform the House that this realignment does not affect staff emoluments that are centrally managed with an automated central payroll at Cabinet Office. Where functions have moved from one ministry to the other, and staff transfers have been made, the employment status of individuals has not been affected. More importantly, the budgetary reallocations were made as part of the process of preparing the two budgets which were subsequently presented to this august House and approved. 

Mr Speaker, in conclusion, I cannot help speculating on why a misunderstanding appears to have occurred following the various statements I have described. One possible explanation might be that some hon. Members were absent from the Chamber at the time of my previous statement. It must be left to hon. Members to have alternative interpretations.

I thank you, Sir. 

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

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ANNOUNCEMENT BY MR SPEAKER

SCREENING FOR PROSTATE AND CERVICAL CANCER 

Mr Speaker: Hon. Members, before I allow questions of clarifications, there is an announcement which I inadvertently omitted. Professor Nkanza’s Laboratories will offer free screening for prostrate and cervical cancer to hon. Members of Parliament and staff tomorrow, Wednesday, 12th December, 2012 from 0800 hours to 1330 hours. The exercise will be conducted in Wesley Nyirenda Committee Room. I, therefore, urge hon. Members and staff to take advantage of this generous and noble offer from Professor Nkanza’s Laboratories.

Thank you.

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Mr Speaker: Hon. Members are now free to ask questions on points of clarification on the ministerial statement given by the hon. Minister of Health.

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Speaker, there was an insinuation that those who raised the point of order may have been absent from the House. I also wish to state that those who have made that insinuation may have forgotten the statement they have issued to this House. 

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Speaker, arising from the statement that has been made by the hon. Minister of Health pertaining to the statement that was made by the Secretary to the Cabinet with regard to the transfer of staff, especially those who are working in the clinics, and transfer of clinics to the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health, I would like to find out from him whether, after the realignment, the Ministry of Health will no longer be running clinics in this country, taking into account that clinics do not only offer primary health care services but also curative services. Is the hon. Minister saying that from now onwards, curative services will be offered by the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health?

Dr Kasonde: Mr Speaker, I thank the hon. Member for that very important question, although I do not accept the challenge of my memory loss. 

Laughter

Dr Kasonde: Sir, I think that the issue the hon. Member has raised is an important one. Let me assure him that I spent this morning with my team of Provincial Medical Officers, ensuring that this change of responsibilities does not cause any anxiety to the patient. As far as the individual patient is concerned, we hope they will not even notice that there has been a change of responsibilities because all the services will continue. Where one activity, which has been apportioned to one ministry actually crosses over to the other, an arrangement has been made to ensure that the transfer of action as opposed to responsibility is smooth. I can assure the hon. Member and the House that this will be the case.

I thank you, Sir.

Mr Simbao: Mr Speaker, …

Mr Mulusa: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker: A point of order is raised.

Mr Mulusa: Mr Speaker, I would like to apologise to my brother for disturbing his question. 

Sir, Article 15 of the current Constitution states that a person shall not be subjected to torture or inhuman, degrading punishment or other like treatment. It has been reported that the MMD President, Dr Nevers Mumba and four hon. Members of Parliament, including a lady, Hon. Anne Chungu, have been detained in Kitwe and they have been made to share a single cell. 

Interruptions

Mr V. Mwale: You people are animals! Look at them. Ba Chikwanda, ba kulu bonse!

Mr Speaker: Order! 

The hon. Member is raising a point of order. Allow him to do so.

Mr Mulusa: Mr Speaker, democracy in our country and entitlement to human dignity is under siege. Is this Government in order to detain innocent members of society for merely going to visit chiefs and, Ms Anne Chungu, for merely going to her own constituency? Is this Government in order to keep a woman overnight in the same cell with men? Are they also in order to detain your hon. Members of Parliament without informing you? To say that I demand a serious ruling will be pouring water on this serious issue. I humbly request for a ruling that will further democracy and ensure that human dignity is protected and respected in this country.

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Speaker: Order!

My ruling is that in order to have a complete picture of this matter, I will request the hon. Member for Solwezi Central to file an urgent question which I expect a response from the hon. Minister of Home Affairs as soon as we receive it tomorrow, considering that the House, itself, is rising tomorrow.

Interruptions

Mr Simbao: Mr Speaker, in support of the statement by the hon. Minister, I recall that he was once Permanent Secretary for the Ministry of Health. That time, the ministry was split into the Ministry of Health and the Central Board of Health (CBH). It so happened that this split …

Interruptions

Mr Speaker: Order! 

The hon. Member is hardly audible because of the running consultations.

Mr Simbao: … eventually brought about a lot of frustrations amongst the staff of the Ministry of Health. Is the hon. Minister sure that this experiment will not bring about any frustrations amongst the Ministry of Health staff. 

Dr Kasonde: Mr Speaker, how we arrange primary, secondary and tertiary health services has, indeed, been a matter of debate and has raised some anxiety over the years. 

It is indeed, true that some of the organisations that were set up during an earlier period when I might have served in the capacity of Permanent Secretary were subsequently confirmed and broken up by a subsequent governments. It is not at all up to me to judge which of those governments were right. Indeed, the latest episode was the abolition as the hon. Member stated of the Central Board of Health which had certain responsibilities. I think, looking forward, let me assure the hon. Member that we have learnt from the experiences of previous governments and believe that what we are creating is indeed, the summation of experiences and the consultation of appropriate literature. Of course, there is a limit to the assurances which can be given by any human being, but as of now, our evidence is clearly in favour of the arrangement we now propose to implement. Let me assure the hon. Members that I shall return to this House to inform it in the event that there are difficulties. I can only appeal to the hon. Members to understand what we are trying to do and to be part of what is being done especially at the local level.

I thank you, Sir.

Professor Lungwangwa (Nalikwanda): Mr Speaker, …

Mr Mwiimbu: On a point of order, Sir.

Mr Speaker: A point of order is raised.

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Speaker, I thank you for affording me the opportunity to raise a point of order pursuant to Article 51 of the Constitution of Zambia. 

Mr Speaker, we were assured on the Floor of this House by His Honour the Vice-President that the people of the Northern and Luapula provinces, are secure from any atrocities which are being perpetrated by the rebels and those who are fighting in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). The assurance was made pursuant to the question which was raised by the hon. Member of Parliament for Chipangali, Hon. Vincent Mwale.

Mr Speaker, in The Post newspaper of today, 11th December, 2012, on page 1, there is a story regarding the killing of a headman in Chienge District by the Mai Mai rebels who are fighting in the DRC. The report reads, and I quote: 

          “DRC rebels kill Chiengi headman

 “A Zambian has been killed by the Maimai rebels of the DRC in Chienge since fights between that country’s government and the rebels broke out. Senior Chief Puta of the Bwile people confirmed the incident when the hon. Deputy Minister of Home Affairs, Hon. Nickson Chilangwa paid a courtesy call on him. He said Headmen Ntutuma was killed in a raid by the Mai Mai rebels in a fight that has resulted into most Congolese nationals to flee into Zambia. 

  Hon. Opposition Members: Shame.

Mr Mwimbu:

“Chief Puta has said the body of headman Ntutuma is in Nchelenge District Hospital awaiting a postmortem.” 

The statement goes on.

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Speaker, we rely on the assurances given on the Floor of this House by the Government of the day led by the Patriotic Front (PF) that our people are secure and will be protected. We are currently witnessing a situation where our traditional leaders in Zambia are being killed by rebels emanating from the fighting in the DRC. 

Is the Government in order to remain quite when the situation in the Northern and Luapula provinces is so serious that a number of our people are being killed and displaced despite the assurances which the Government gave us on the Floor of this House? Are they in order to remain quite and pretend that all is well in Luapula Province? Are they in order to cause so much insecurity on the part of our people especially that there are no people speaking on behalf of the people of Luapula?

Mr Speaker: I think, you have made your point.

Mr Mwiimbu: Thank you, Mr Speaker.

I will lay the paper on the Table.

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mwiimbu laid the paper on the Table.

Mr Speaker: Order!

Let us have Order.

My short ruling is that, the hon. Minister of Defence should respond through a ministerial statement tomorrow, Wednesday, 12th December, 2012. That is my ruling.

Professor Lungwangwa: Mr Speaker, if I heard the hon. Minister of Health clearly, he stated …

Mr Speaker: Order! 

Professor Lungwangwa: … that K1.4 trillion will be spent on the realignment of the two ministries. For the sake of clarity to the nation, I would like to find out whether that money will be spent on bureaucratic administrative structural rearrangements or it will go directly to the delivery of health services for the improvement of the quality of life of our people. I would like the hon. Minister to clarify to the nation how the K1.4 trillion will be used.

Dr Kasonde: Mr Speaker, may I take this opportunity to recognise the contribution of the hon. Member who has exhibited on previous occasions his commitment to change his mind set when a Government changes. To make what I am saying clearer let me refer to some earlier seminal research which he conducted and presented to the University of Illinois.

Laughter

Dr Kasonde: As he will no doubt recall that in that paper he argued that the coming in of a new Government in a democratic society enables radical changes to be made. It is in that context that I hope the hon. Member will understand the radical changes that we are making. We do not anticipate any difficulties in people understanding the new administrative changes. As I have said, we do not expect any difficulty because of the mechanisms we have put in place. However, in terms of the specific activities for which the funds requested will be used, we have the Yellow Book which describes page by page under the two ministries how that money will be utilised. I am a little bit at a loss to understand what the problem is.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Dr Kalila (Lukulu East): Mr Speaker, at the beginning of the year I warned of a situation where we would create another Ministry of Health by creating the Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health. I am aware that the new arrangement is mainly for the purposes of ensuring that the Ministry of Health mainly focuses on policy articulation. Hon. Minister, are we seeing the return of the Central Board of Health (CBoH), once again?

Dr Kasonde: Mr Speaker, I did mention that the Act which created the CBoH was repealed by a previous Government. Personally, I do not think that the change of Government was entirely because of that particular incident. Nevertheless, I would not want us to go back and start discussing the repealing of that law. I would rather focus on the way forward by looking at the lessons we can learn from that experience. 

I do not agree that we need the return of the CBoH. I am, however, willing to concede that some of the elements of that CBoH arrangement will be incorporated in our new arrangement as we go forward. 

Mr Speaker, I thank you. 

Mr Mbulakulima (Chembe): Mr Speaker, the hon. Minister indicated in his statement that there is no need for patients to panic over this matter. However, to avoid doubt, especially in the minds of the people of Milenge, can he restate where the clinics belong and indeed what necessitated this move. I want him to come out as clearly as our ancestors did in Imilimo Yabena Kale”. 

Laughter

Mr Speaker: The hon. Minister is usually clear. 

Hon. Minister, you may proceed.     

Dr Kasonde: Mr Speaker, I thank you and also thank the hon. Member for referring to the publication by my late father Imilimo Yabena Kale, or the acts of our forbearers. I certainly do respect do respect the practice of looking at things in a historical context. I am, however, sure that he will admit that we cannot trace exactly the specific activities which were done by our forebearers. We can follow the principles that were established, but the specific activities must have been changing from time to time. I think that this is what we are doing. 

Sir, a broader view of this is that times have changed. There was a time when health issues were riposited in one institution. I can give the example of the World Health Organisation (WHO) which was created in 1948. At the time, it was the only world organisation involved in handling international health issues. Today the World Bank, United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) and United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) are some of the institutions involved in handling health institutions. All these are new actors in the health sector. 

 I have noticed with great interest and admiration the concern that hon. Members have shown about health issues in their constituencies. We must not begin to protect any one entity. We need the co-ordination of all the actors. These actors may be Ministry of Health, Ministry of Local Government and Housing, Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health, the churches, mines and the private sector. The only thing which needs to be centralized is the policy making aspect. We shall not stifle the emergence of several actors in the area of health.

Mr Speaker, I thank you. 

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QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

NDOLA RURAL MINING RIGHTS

290. Mr M. B. Mwale (Malambo) asked the Minister of Mines, Energy and Water Development:

(a)    who owned the mining rights in the restricted area in Ndola rural prior to their being transferred to Mineral Reserve Corporation;

(b)    what the size of mining rights area was at the time of the transfer;

(c)    when Kagem Limited was formed;

(d)    when Kagem Limited assumed mining rights over the area at (b); and

(e)    what the current size of the mining rights area was.

The Deputy Minister of Minister of Mines, Energy and Water Development (Mr Musukwa): Mr Speaker, I wish to inform the House that Mindeco Small Mines, Nkuralu Gem Prospecting Company and Pirala Emerald Mining Company owned mining rights in the Ndola rural restricted area. The House may wish to know that only the mining rights that were owned by Mindeco Small Mines were transferred to the Mineral Reserve Corporation and these were:

    Prospecting        (PL230)
    Fwaya-Fwaya        (ML53)
    Chama        (ML66)
    Kanchule        (ML67)
    Lunshingwa        (ML68)
    Libwente        (ML69)
    Dabwisa        (ML70)
    Fibolele        (ML71)
    
Mr Speaker, the size of each mining right at the time of transfer to Mineral Reserve Corporation was as follows:

                            (Hectares)

    Prospecting    (PL230)    2,914.6
    Fwaya-Fwaya    (ML53)    172.3
    Chama    (ML66)    9.7
    Kanchule    (ML67)    16.4
    Lunshingwa    (ML68)    5.3
    Libwente    (ML69)    403.1
    Dabwisa    (ML70)    179.1
    Fibolele    (ML71)    290.5

    Total    3,991

Mr Speaker, Kagem was established in 1984 as a joint venture company between the Republic of Zambia which owns 55 per cent and Hagura, which owns 45 per cent, a London-based private company. Kagem assumed the mining rights at (b) in April, 1984. 

Sir, the current size of the mining rights area in question is 4,600 hectares. 

I thank you, Sir.

Mr M. B. Mwale: Mr Speaker, I thank the hon. Minister for virtually confirming that the mining area has remained the same from MINDECO to Kagem. Hon. Minister, do you have any plans to engage their royal highnesses in Ndola rural who want Kagem’s mining rights area to be reduced so as to ensure that Kagem has security of tenure? 

Mr Musukwa: Mr Speaker, as a Government, we have plans to engage their royal highnesses in Ndola Rural to encourage them to prospect for emeralds in the area, except in the area licensed to Kagem. As a Government, we have no control over the licensed area because it is already in the hands of a private partner. The Government owns 25 per cent in Kagem while Gem Field owns 75 per cent. Literally, this is a business with which the Government cannot interfere. We will continue to encourage their royal highnesses around that area to explore in other areas that are not yet licensed to other people.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

CANNABIS-RELATED ARRESTS

291. Mr Chisala (Chilubi) asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

(a)how many people had been arrested from 1st January, 2012, for the following offences:

(i)being in possession of cannabis; and

(ii)cultivation of cannabis.

(b)what the quantities of the cannabis at (a) above had been; and

(c)how many people had been arrested by the Zambia Police Force country-wide for dealing in counterfeit notes during the same period.

The Deputy Minister of Home Affairs (Mr Kampyongo): Mr Speaker, from 1st January, 2012, to date, the Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC) arrested 135 people for being in possession of cannabis and 137 for cultivating it. The offences were as follows:

Offence    Quantity (Grammes)

possession of cannabis    26,406,113.74

    cultivation of cannabis        17,176,839.30

Mr Speaker, our law enforcement agencies arrested sixty people for dealing in counterfeit notes countrywide from 1st January 2012 to date. The amounts are as follows:

    Currency    Amounts

    Zambian Kwacha    56,430,000.00

    US Dollars      1,682,000.00

    Malawian Kwacha        11,000.00

I thank you, Sir.

Mr Chisala: Mr Speaker, it is a well-known fact that counterfeit notes are counter-productive to the Zambian economy and have an adverse impact on the common man in this country. Arising from that, what corrective measures does the Government intend to put in place?

Mr Kampyongo: Mr Speaker, I agree with the hon. Member that the figures that we have mentioned have the got potential to distort our economy. So, we, as a ministry, through our security agencies, will remain alert and monitor these activities. It is our sincere hope that, with the coming of the new notes, as the Bank of Zambia re-bases the currency, the new notes will come with enhanced security features that will make it harder to forge currency.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Mr Sing’ombe (Dundumwezi): Mr Speaker, which province had the highest number of people arrested for cultivating cannabis?

Laughter

Mr Kampyongo: Mr Speaker, unfortunately, the province topping in the cultivation of cannabis is the Southern Province.

I thank you, Sir.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Laughter

Mr Mwiimbu (Monze Central): Mr Speaker, cannabis has been with our people for quite some time.

Laughter

Mr Mwiimbu: It has been used as a stimulant for hard work.

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Speaker, yesterday, the State of Washington in the United States of America (USA) legalised the smoking of marijuana, which we call cannabis in Zambia. It is stated that the people were very happy …

Laughter

Mr Mwiimbu: … because of that decision. Is the hon. Minister also considering legalising cannabis so that the people can be happy like those in Washington?

Laughter

Mr Speaker: I thought that you were going to particularise which people.

Laughter

Mr Kampyongo: Mr Speaker, unfortunately, we do not have intentions of legalising the consumption of cannabis. As far as we are concerned, the law is in place and, until it is repealed, we will enforce it.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

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MOTION

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES NO. 1 OF 2012

The Minister of Finance (Mr Chikwanda): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the House do now resolve into Committee Supply to consider Supplementary Estimates No. 1 of 2012.

Sir, I am a bearer of a message from the President, recommending favourable consideration of the Motion I now lay on the Table.

Mr Chikwanda laid the paper on the Table.

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Speaker, the Supplementary Estimates I am presenting have been prepared in accordance with Article 115 (2) (e) of the Zambian Constitution, which reads:

“No warrants shall be issued by the President authorising expenditure from the General Revenues of the Republic unless no provision exists in the expenditure and the President considers that there is such an urgent need to incur the expenditure, but it would not be in the public interest to delay the authorisation of the expenditure until such time as Supplementary Estimates can be laid before, and approved by the National Assembly.”

Sir, by virtue of the authority conveyed in the Article of the Constitution quoted above, I have the honour to present the Supplementary Estimates covering the financial year 2012. The total supplementary request stands at K6.5 trillion. Of this amount, K629.9 billion represents funds released to institutions towards the end of the financial year 2011 and spent in 2012, while K1.3 trillion are savings declared within the approved the Budget. A further K312.8 billion represents funds that were released directly to institutions during the year by the cooperating partners, but not part of the 2012 Estimates, thereby leaving a balance of K4.2 trillion. This has been financed by a combination of suppressing other areas of expenditure and improved domestic revenue performance.

Sir, allow me to highlight substantial amounts that are contained in the Supplementary Estimates. Under Head 21, Loans and Investments, K1.8 trillion is requested, of which K754 billion is required for financing of petroleum feedstock supply shortfalls; K104 billion is for the repayment of debts to Stanbic Bank for vehicles released to leaders in 2011; K29 billion is required for the Nitrogen Chemicals of Zambia (NCZ) and K62 billion is required for the Lusaka ring roads project. Large portions of the balance are variations within the road sector budget by the Road Development Agency (RDA) to accommodate various roads, including the Link Zambia Project.

Mr Speaker, under the Ministry of Finance, K1.6 trillion is required, of which K1.4 trillion has been allowed to cover payment of the wage awards to civil servants and leaders. Under the Ministry of Health, a supplementary provision of K388.4 billion is required primarily to normalise expenditures arising from donor in-flows that were not captured in the 2012 Estimates.

Under the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock, a supplementary provision of K378.5 billion is required, of which K340.6 billion is for procurement and distribution of fertiliser for the 2012/2013 farming season.

Mr Speaker, under the Public Service Management Division (PSMD) a supplementary provision of K351.21 billion is required primarily to pay off retirees under the Public Service Pension Fund (PSPF).

Interruptions

Mr Speaker: Order! 

Silence, please.

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Speaker, under the Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communication, a supplementary provision of K310.2 billion is required, of which K215.7 billion is required to liquidate debts for fire tenders and rehabilitation of the Kenneth Kaunda International Airport and the Harry Mwaanga Nkumbula International Airport. 

Sir, I beg to move.

Mr Kakoma (Zambezi West): Mr Speaker, these Supplementary Estimates of Expenditure have come as a surprise to this House. Last year, when the PF Government came into power, it gave us the impression that it was giving us a Supplementary Estimate for 2011 because that was a Budget prepared by the MMD, which had under-budgeted. This supplementary Budget for 2012 is being brought by the PF Government, which is responsible for spending above what was approved by this House.

Sir, for many years, we, together with the PF hon. Members of Parliament, have lamented in this House that supplementary budgets, if need arises during the year, must be brought to this House before the Government starts spending money. We are now being used, for lack of a better word, like rubber stamps to approve expenditure that has already been incurred by the Government. Expenditure must not be incurred by the Government until Parliament approves it. As it is, now, the money has already been spent and the Government expects this House to merely approve it, even the wrongly- incurred expenditures.

Mr Chairperson, this supplementary budget is an indication of poor budgeting by the PF Government. It should have known that it was going to construct certain roads and incur a lot of all these expenditures that have been highlighted by the hon. Minister of Finance. In any case, some of them are capital expenditure projects. They are not of an urgent nature and should have waited for the next Budget. I, therefore, find it mind-boggling that the PF Government should go ahead and incur expenditure without the knowledge and approval of this House and expect this House to support it. If this House goes ahead to support such expenditure, it will be authorising this Government to engage in extravagant use of the resources of this country. On that score, I strongly oppose these Estimates of Expenditure brought by the hon. Minister of Finance.

I thank you, Sir.

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Speaker, I started my submission by quoting the Section of the Constitution that legalises the presentation of supplementary budgets. We do not want to go on apportioning blame in terms of parties and other aspects. There comes a time when we ascend above parties. Parties have a role to play in our political system, but the notion of Zambia, as a country which is indivisible, is entrenched and valid. So, there is a point beyond which we cannot apportion blame. 

Sir, some of the expenditures are carry-overs from the previous administration, but I do not want to dwell on that because the Government is continuous. Some of the expenditures which were captured as a contribution from the donors after the budgets were approved and the bulk of the expenditures are just re-alignment of figures. So, there are no new monies being expended. 

Sir these Supplementary Estimates are quite legitimate and being presented in the strictest conformity with the Constitution. I think that the hon. Member for Zambezi West has slightly over-stretched his concerns.

Mr Speaker, I would like to thank the House for unanimously supporting the Supplementary Estimates.

I thank you, Sir.

Hon. Opposition Members: Question!

Question put and agreed to.

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COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY

[THE CHAIRPERSON OF COMMITTEES in the
 
Chair]

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES NO. 1 OF 2012

Interruptions

The Chairperson: We are dealing with the Supplementary Estimates whose Motion we have just concluded. The problem is that when I am reading, some of you are consulting loudly and you confuse me in the process.

Laughter

The Chairperson: I will start again. We are considering Supplementary Estimates No. 1 of 2012.

Vote 01/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

VOTE 02/01 – (Office of the Vice-President – Human Resource and Administration – K7,693,127,239).

Ms Imenda (Luena): Mr Chairperson, I would like an explanation on Programme 3001, Activity 007 – Operations of the Vice-President’s Bureau – K6,093,127,239. I note that the initial amount allocated to this activity in the 2012 Budget is K2,836,570,130. Could somebody shed some light on what necessitated this supplementary amount which is about 300 per cent more than the initial amount.

The Deputy Minister of Finance (Mr Sampa): Sir, this supplementary provision is required for increased activities in the Office of the Vice-President, of which K793,127,239 is required to normalise expenditure incurred in 2012 using funds released in 2011. This is because the Vice-President had to attend a number of traditional ceremonies and also deputised for His Excellency on a number of international travels.

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Vote 02/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 02/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 02/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 03/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 04/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 04/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 05/01 – (Electoral Commission – Headquarters – K96,775,817,216).

Ms Imenda: Sir, I seek clarification on the supplementary expenditure on Programme 4000, Activity 008 – Gratuity – K12, 295,268,798 . Was everybody fired or retired at the Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ)?

Mr Sampa: Sir, that supplementary provision is required for commissioners and staff gratuities. Some contracts were, indeed, terminated and new commissioners were hired. So, these are the funds that are needed to supplement that exercise.

I thank you, Mr Chairperson.

Vote 05/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 06/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 07/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 07/10 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 08/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 08/07 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 10/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 11/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 11/13 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 13/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 14/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 14/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 14/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 14/07 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 15/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 15/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 15/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 15/05 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 15/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 16/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 17/01 – (Ministry of Foreign Affairs – Headquarters – K82,143,030,715).

Ms Imenda:  Mr Chairperson, may I have clarification on Programme 3045, Activity 004 – Transportation of Diplomats – K54,900,000,000. The budget allocation of K856,857,321 is colossal. Did the Ministry not know, when budgeting, that diplomats would be recalled?

Mr Sampa: Mr Chairperson, the supplementary provision is required for the transportation of diplomats with K54.9 billion declared as savings from the contingency Vote. There are a lot of diplomats who are recalled when there is a change of government. So, money was transferred to this Vote to repatriate the diplomats. It is not a new fund, but was already in the 2012 Budget.

I thank you, Sir.

Ms Imenda: Sir, I do not think …

The Deputy Chairperson: Order! 

You did not ask. Ask and you shall be given.

You can continue.

Laughter

Ms Imenda: Mr Chairperson, I do not think the hon. Deputy Minister has answered the question. The supplementary amount is K78,763,324,141. I did not ask where it came from. Did they not know, when budgeting, that many diplomats will be recalled?

Mr Sampa: Mr Chairperson, there are some decisions made in the year, such as recalling diplomats, that you cannot plan for, hence the contingency to the budget. When such decisions are made by the President, a contingency fund is used to meet those new costs. So, you cannot estimate who will be hired or fired in the year, but money for contingency is used if that happens.

I thank you, Sir.

Vote 17/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 17/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 17/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 17/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Interruptions

The Chairperson: I am the only one who is supposed to be talking. If you want to consult, do it quietly or get out of the Chamber. 

Vote 17/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 17/31 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 17/36 – (Mission Abroad – Paris – 1,138,050,000).

Dr Kazonga: Mr Chairperson, I seek clarification on Programme 3001, Activity 003 – Office Administration – K1,138,050,000. The initial Budget allocation was K225,979,747. May I know what necessitated this huge supplementary Budget?

Mr Sampa: Mr Speaker, the PF policy is to pay bills. We found a number of unpaid bills. Therefore, the supplementary provision is required to dismantle all the outstanding bills that were not in the budget for the Paris Mission.

I thank you, Sir.

Vote 17/36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 17/43 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Interruptions

The Chairperson: Order!

 I already said that if you want to consult loudly, go and consult outside in the lobbies. However, if you want to do it here, do it quietly so as to give me a chance to concentrate.

Vote 17/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 18/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 19/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 20/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 21/01 – (Loans and Investments Ministry of Finance and National Planning – K1,846,357,602,621) 

Dr Kazonga: Mr Chairperson, I seek clarification on Programme 3097, Activity 030 – Lusaka South MFEZ – K25,000,000,000. An initial allocation of about K2.4 billion was made and a supplementary allocation of K25,000,000,000 is being proposed for approval. May I know why there is this huge supplementary allocation of K25,000,000,000.

Mr Sampa: Mr Chairperson, let me put into perspective the issues as regards the Road Development Agency (RDA). For some projects that were not moving fast, but had funds budgeted, a decision was made to move the funds to fast moving activities. Therefore, in this case, the Lusaka South MFEZ supplementary provision is required due to higher than anticipated costs for major road rehabilitation with savings declared within the road sector budget. The money for the supplementary allocation is from within the RDA Budget. We are just moving it from one project to another hence the need for approval.

I thank you, Sir.

Vote 21/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 26/03 – (The Ministry of Information, Broadcasting and Tourism – Press and Planning – K14,171,842,495).

Mr Kakoma: Mr Chairperson, I seek clarification on Programme 5005, Activity 149 – Public Media Support – K12,480,000,000. The initial amount budgeted for was K1,400,000,000. The supplementary budget was K12,480,000,000. What necessitated this and which media benefited from this support?

Mr Sampa: Mr Chairperson, Programme 5005, Activity 149 – Public Media Support – K12,480,000,000, this supplementary provision was required for the procurement of media equipment for covering the on-going Zone Six Games. Zambia National Broadcasting Corporation (ZNBC) and Muvi are covering these games. I hope you are being updated on the games, hon. Member. This is additional funding which we needed to provide.

I thank you, Sir.

Vote 26/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 26/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 27/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 27/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 29/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 29/05 – (Ministry of Local Government and Housing – Local Government Administration Department – K6,550,000,000).

Mr Simbao (Senga Hill): Mr Chairperson, I wanted to ask questions on two Votes you have already read.

The Chairperson: Order!

I saw you stand when I read out the allocation for the previous Vote.

Mr Simbao: Mr Chairperson, I have a question on that Vote.

The Chairperson: Order!

Go ahead and ask the question.

Mr Simbao: Mr Chairperson, Programme 5004, Activity 001 – Capital Grants – K6,550,000,000. I think that last time we were told that the councils have been given a lot of money. Therefore, why has this supplementary provision arisen?

Mr Sampa: Mr Chairperson, this money is related to preparations for the United Nations World Tourism Organisation (UNWTO) Conference which will be held in Livingstone next year. This supplementary provision is required for works to be undertaken by the Livingstone City Council so that it can prepare for the UNWTO conference.

I thank you, Sir.

Vote 29/05 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

The Chairperson: Order!

I would like to ensure that people who indicate that they would like to speak, especially those seated directly opposite these nice ivory tusks move to the sides because I cannot see them when they stand. For instance, I did not see Hon. Simbao.

VOTE 31/01 – (Ministry of Justice – Headquarters – K95,400,000,000).

Mr Mbulakulima (Chembe): Mr Chairperson, Programme 4007, Activity 016 – Settlement of Outstanding Bills – Rentals – K94,800,000,000. What happened to necessitate the supplementary allocation? 

Mr Sampa: Mr Chairperson, Programme 4007, Activity 016 – Settlement of Outstanding Bills – Rentals – K94,800,000,000, earlier, I  mentioned that we want to pay all the bills which were incurred by the previous Governmnent. This Government wants to honour all outstanding bills and in this case, this huge provision is required for the payment of rentals for the Technical Committee Drafting the Constitution. This provision will also be utilised to settle all outstanding bills left by the National Constitution Conference (NCC).

I thank you, Sir.

Vote 31/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 31/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 33/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 33/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 33/04 – (Ministry of Commerce, Trade and Industry – Industry Department – K7,178,400).

Mr Simbao: Mr Chairperson …

Mr Mwiimbu: On a point of order, Sir.

The Chairperson: Order!

A point of order is raised.

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Chairperson, I thank you for according me this opportunity to raise a point of order.

Mr Chairperson, this afternoon, four of our colleagues were denied police bond … 

Hon. Government Members: Ah!

Mr Mwiimbu: … and have been taken back to Kamfinsa State Prison.

Interruptions

Mr Mwiimbu: Mr Chairperson, are we, hon. Members of this House, especially hon. Members in the Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD), in order to sit and continue debating when we are mourning ...

Interruptions

Mr Mwiimbu: … that the rights of our colleagues have been trampled upon. Are we in order to pretend that all is well in this House when our rights as hon. Members of Parliament are being violated? I need your serious ruling.

The Chairperson:  Order!

On an earlier point of order, the ruling was made by Mr Speaker that somebody was to raise a Question of urgent nature and that, tomorrow, the hon. Minister of Home Affairs would answer. Can the hon. Minister include in that answer the latest question on the point of order.

Interruptions 

Hon. Government Members: Just walk out!

Hon. Opposition Members left the Assembly Chamber.

Hon. Government Members: No allowance! We knew.

Interruptions 

The Chairperson: Order!

We were at the point when Hon. Simbao was asking a question but, since he is no longer available, the question is that K7,178,400,000 stands part of the Estimates.

Vote 33/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 33/05 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Interruptions

The Chairperson: Order!

Hon. Minister, when I say, ‘Order!’ it is not just for routine purposes. You have to obey. Do you want us to be sending you out of the House even when we do not want to?

Vote 33/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 34/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Vote 37/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37/07 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37/08 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

The Chairperson: Order!

Business was suspended from 1615 hours until 1630 hours.

[THE DEPUTY CHAIRPERSON in the
Chair]

Vote 37/10 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 37/11 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 44/08 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 51/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 51/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 51/07 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 77/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 77/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 77/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Vote 77/05 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 77/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 78/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 80/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Lieutenant General Shikapwasha entered the Assembly Chamber.

Laughter{mospagebreak}

The Deputy Chairperson: Your laughter is rather loud. It is disturbing the flow of business.

Vote 80/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 80/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 80/04 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 80/06 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 85/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 93/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 93/55 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 95/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 96/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 96/17 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 96/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 96/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 96/55 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 97/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 97/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 98/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 98/36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 98/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

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Vote 98/45 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 98/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 98/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 98/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 99/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 99/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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HOUSE RESUMED

[MR SPEAKER in the Chair]

Supplementary Estimates No.1 of 2012 reported approved.

Report adopted.

Question put and agreed to and Mr Speaker appointed the Minister of Finance to be a committee of one to bring in the necessary Bill to give effect hereto at a later date.

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BILLS

THIRD READING 

The following Bills were read the third time and passed:

The Customs and Excise (Amendment) Bill, 2012 

The Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2012 

The Value Added Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2012 

The Zambia Development Agency (Amendment) Bill, 2012

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COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY

[THE DEPUTY CHAIRPERSON OF COMMITTEES in the

Chair]

VOTE 51 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communication – K539,808,007,913).

(Consideration resumed)

The Deputy Chairperson: When business was adjourned on Friday, 7th December, 2012, the hon. Member for Chembe, Mr Mbulakulima, was debating. May he continue?

Mr Mbulakulima was absent from the Assembly Chamber.

Laughter

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

The Deputy Chairperson: Is there any further debate?

The Minister of Transport, Works, Supply and Communication (Mr Yaluma): Mr Chairperson, I would like to thank all the hon. Members of this august House who contributed to the debate, especially the hon. Member for Mpongwe who forthrightly supported the entire budget. I would also like to thank the hon. Member for Keembe, Lieutenant-General Shikapwasha, for being so courageous by listening attentively to the proceedings of the House.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Yaluma: Mr Chairperson, let me also thank the rest of the hon. Members of the House for supporting the budget for my ministry.

Thank you very much, Sir.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

Vote 51/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51/02 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communication – Civil Aviation Department – K54,682,009,109).

The Minister of Finance (Mr Chikwanda): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

Under 01 Human Resources and administration Unit, Programme: 1000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K1,774,533,306 and the substitution therefor of K1,774,533,305.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 51/02, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 51/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51/04 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communication – Maritime and Inland Waterways Department – K24,383,500,754).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

(i)Under 05 Dredging Unit, Programme: 9001 Technical Equipment, Activity 001, Procurement of Dredger, by the deletion of K5,900,000,000; and

(ii)Under 05 Dredging Unit, Programme: 1038 Canals and Inland Waterways Development and Management, Activity 001, Procurement of Dredger, by the deletion of K7,000,000,000 and the substitution therefor of K12,900,000,000.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 51/04, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 51/05 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51/06 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communications – Human Resources and Administration Department – K319,642,178,589).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

(i)    Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme:1001 General Administration, Activity 114 Climate Change Awareness by the deletion of K107,307,575;

(ii)    Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme 1001: General Administration, Activity 114 Climate Change Awareness, by the deletion of K100,000,000 and the substitution therefor of K207,307,575;

(iii)    Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 1033 Capacity Building, Activity 026 Needs Assessment and Appraisal by the deletion of K27,106,250;

(iv)    Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme:1003 Capacity Building, Activity 026 Needs Assessment and Appraisal by the deletion of K27,106,250 and the substitution therefor of K54,212,500;

(v)    Under Audit Unit, Programme: 1003 Capacity Building, Activity 002 Foreign Short Courses-ESSAG by the deletion of K158,634,000; and

(vi)    Under 03 Audit Unit, Programme: 1003 Capacity Building, Activity 017 Foreign Short Courses-ESSAG by the deletion of K30,902,500 and the substitution therefor of K197,538,500; 

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 51/06, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51/07 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communications – Buildings Department – K63,851,767,047).

The Chairperson: There is a proposed amendment to this Vote, but not by the hon. Minister of Finance.

Mr Muntanga?

Mr Muntanga was not present in the Chamber.

The Deputy Chairperson: It falls away.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Vote 51/07 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 51/08 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51/09 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communications – Office Equipment, Maintenance Services Department – K7,337,716,949).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

(i)    Under 01 Office Equipment Unit, Programme: 1111 Maintenance of Government Office Equipment, Activity 001 Maintenance of Government Office Equipment by the deletion of K178,728,000; and

(ii)    Under Office Equipment Unit, Programme: 1111 Maintenance of Government Office Equipment, Activity 002 Maintenance of Government Equipment by the deletion of K470,927,625 and substitution therefor of K649,655,625.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 51/09, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 51/10 – (Ministry of Transport, Works, Supply and Communications – Planning and Monitoring Department – K17,569,360,072).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

(i)    Under 04 Cabinet, parliamentary and Gender Unit, Programme: 1127 Parliamentary Business and Cabinet Affairs, Activity 003 Preparation of Parliamentary Speeches by the deletion of K75,000,000; and 

(ii)    Under 04 Cabinet, Parliamentary and Gender Unit, Programme: 1127 Parliamentary Business and Cabinet affairs, Activity 013 Preparation of Parliamentary Speeches by the deletion of K45,000,000 and the substitution of K120,000,000.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 51/10, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

The Deputy Chairperson: We now move on to provinces but, before we move to that Head, bear in mind that we no longer have nine provinces, but ten. Therefore, the number of people contributing per province will be limited. I hope you will bear that in mind because, if we allow, for example, four hon. Members per province, it means forty people debating. So, please, bear that in mind. What we will do is that we will request hon. Members to debate from any province and keep a record. Once we have exhausted all the provinces, then we will move to the individual heads for all the provinces. That will be the procedure.

The Vice-President: Mr Chairperson, you have done a herculean task today.  We all appreciate that. Thank you very much, everybody.

I thank you, Sir.

Laughter{mospagebreak}

Vote 88/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Ms Kalima entered the Assembly Chamber.

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

Vote 88/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/16 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Interruptions

The Chairperson: Order!

Please consult less loudly. Let us be orderly. It is the people on my extreme right who are not orderly.

Vote 88/17 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/18 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/19 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/23 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/35 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/41 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/42 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/43 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/44 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/51 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/53 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Business was suspended from 1815 hours until 1830 hours.

[THE DEPUTY CHAIRPERSON in the
 Chair]

Vote 88/55 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 88/56 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/08 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/16 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/18 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/19 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/23 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/41 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/42 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/43 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/44 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/51 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/53 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 90/55 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote91/16 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/17 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/18 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/19 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/23 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/35 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/37 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/ 37 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/41 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/42 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/43 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/44 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/45 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/47 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/51 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/53 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/54 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 91/55 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/02 – (Office of the President – Central Province – Zambia News and Information Services – K908,418,605)

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment under 01: Human Resource and Administration Unit, Programme 6000: Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K516,928,175 and the substitution therefor of K516,928,174.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly. 

Vote/92/02, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Vote 92/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/08 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/16 − (Office of the President − Central Province − Forestry Department − K2,169,256,610).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K1,393,600,512 and the substitution therefor of K1,393,600,511.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 92/16, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/17 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/18 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/19 − (Office of the President − Central Province −Water Affairs Department − K1,393,364,300).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K950,995,594 and the substitution therefor of K950,995,595.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 92/19, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates

VOTE 92/23 − (Office of the President − Central Province −Labour Department − K1,113,558,342).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

(i)Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K860,985,296 and the substitution therefor of K860,985,295; and

(ii)Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6002 Events, by the deletion of Programme Total K18,680,889 and the substitution therefor of K18,680,888.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 92/23, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/35 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/36 − (Office of the President − Central Province − Metrological Department − K651,503,943).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme:6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K383,904,427 and the substitution therefor of K383,904,428.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 92/36, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/37 – (Office of the President – Central Province – Road Traffic – K94,931,018).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K94,931,018 and the substitution therefor of K94,931,019. 

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly. 

Vote 92/37, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Vote 92/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/41 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/42 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/43 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/44 – (Office of the President – Central Province – Provincial Local Government Office – K884,176,609).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:
(i)Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K536,884,773 and the substitution therefore of K157,521,405; and

(ii)Under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6001 General Administration, by the deletion of Programme Total K157,521,404 and the substitution therefor of K157,521,405.

 Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly. 

Vote 92/44, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Vote 92/45 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.
    
Vote 92/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/47 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/48 – (Office of the President – Central Province – Sports Department – K354,541,922).  

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, programme: 6000 Personal emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K135,182,112 and the substitution therefor of K135,182,113.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly. 

Vote 92/48, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates. 

Vote 92/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/51 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 92/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/53 − (Office of the President − Central Province − Internal Audit Department − K653,858,336).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment under 01 Internal Audit Unit, Programme: 6008 Financial Controls and Procedures, by the deletion of Programme Total K301,670,355 and the substitution therefor of K301,670,354.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 92/53, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 92/54 − (Office of the President − Central Province − Procurement and Supplies Unit − K405,790,041)

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment under 01 Human Resources and Administration Unit, Programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K185,395,231 and the substitution therefor of K185,395,230.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 92/54, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/03 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/09 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/16 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/17 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/18 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/19 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/23 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/35 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/36 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/37 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/41 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/42 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/43 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/44 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/51 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/52 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/53 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/55 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 93/56 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Vote 94/01 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/02 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/07 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 94/09 – (Office of the President – Western Province – Buildings Department – K1,548,335,617).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment:

Under 01 Buildings Unit, programme: 6000 Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K1,009,677,541 and the substitution therefor of K1,009,677,542.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 94/09, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 94/16 – (Office of the President – Western Province – Forestry Department – K2,753,594,617).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment under 01: Forestry Unit, Programme 6001: General Administration, by the deletion of Programme Total K272,693,740 and the substitution therefor of K272,693,742.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 94/16, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 94/17 – (Office of the President – Western Province – Lands Department – K386,937,252).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment under 01: Lands Unit, Programme 6000: Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K197,277,877 and the substitution therefor of K197,277,878.
 
Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 94/17, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 94/18 – (Office of the President – Western Province – Survey Department – K287,095,832).

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Chairperson, I beg to move the following amendment under 01: Survey Unit, Programme 6000: Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K132,673,919 and the substitution therefor of K132,673,918.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 94/18, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/19 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/19 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/23 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/24 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/25 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Interruptions

The Deputy Chairperson: Order!

May you, please, consult each other less loudly; that is, the people at the desk at the end, comprising …

Laughter

Vote 94/35 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 94/36 – (Office of the President – Western Province – Metrological Department – K1,253,707,314).

The Minister of Finance (Mr Chikwanda): Mr Chairperson, I beg to move an amendment under 01: Metrological Unit, Programme 6001: General Administration, by the deletion of Programme Total K190,933,924 and the substitution therefor of K190,933,923.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 94/36, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.  

Vote 94/40 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/41 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/42 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

VOTE 94/43 – (Office of the President – Western Province – Child Affairs Department – K817,036,733)

Mr Chikwanda: Mr Speaker, I beg to move an amendment under 01: Child Affairs Unit, Programme 6000: Personal Emoluments, by the deletion of Programme Total K175,236,733 and the substitution therefor of K175,236,732.

Amendment agreed to. Vote amended accordingly.

Vote 94/43, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/44 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/46 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/47 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/48 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Vote 94/49 ordered to stand part of the Estimates.

Mr Chairperson:  Order!

(Debate adjourned)

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HOUSE RESUMED

[MR SPEAKER in the Chair]

(Progress reported)

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MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

The Minister of Finance (Mr Chikwanda): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn.

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The House adjourned at 1958 hours until 1430 hours on Thursday, 12th December, 2012.

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