Friday, 21^st March, 2025

The House met at 0900 hours

[MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

NATIONAL ANTHEM

PRAYER

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ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER

COUNCILLORS FROM KAFUE TOWN COUNCIL

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of Councillors from Kafue District Council.

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors into our midst.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

VISITORS FROM STANDING UP FOR THE BOY CHILD INITIATIVE ZAMBIA

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of visitors from Standing Up for the Boy Child Initiative Zambia in Lusaka District.

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors into our midst.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

VISITORS FROM THE REFORMED CHURCH IN ZAMBIA

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of visitors from the Reformed Church in Zambia in Lusaka District.

Mr B. Mpundu: Aba red!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors into our midst.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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BUSINESS STATEMENT

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security and Acting Leader of Government Business in the House (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.): Madam Speaker, I wish to inform the House that the House Business Committee met on Thursday, 20^th March, 2025, to determine and schedule Business of the House for the period 25^th to 28^th March, 2025.

Madam Speaker, the House Business Committee resolved to lay before the House the following business for consideration next week:

Announcements

The Hon. Madam Speaker will make announcements, if there will be any.

Rulings

The Hon. Madam Speaker will render Rulings, if there will be any.

Ministerial Statements

Hon. Ministers will render Ministerial Statements on topical issues, if there will be any.

Motion

The hon. Minister of Justice will move a Motion entitled, “Authorise the President to Bring into Effect the Revised Edition of the Laws of Zambia, 2019” on 25^th March, 2025.

Private Members’ Motions

The following Private Members’ Motions are to be considered:

1. Mr C. Kang’ombe will move a Motion entitled, “Create Incentives for Local Start-ups Companies” on 26^th March, 2025; and
2. Mr C. Kang’ombe will move a Motion entitled, “Facilitate the Amendment of the Local Act” on 26^th March, 2025.

Motion of Adjournment

Mr C. Kang’ombe will move a Motion of Adjournment entitled, “Address Challenges of the Delays in the Payment of Local Contractors and Suppliers by Mining Companies” on 26^th March, 2025.

Bills

Hon. Ministers will present Bills, if there will be any.

Reports on International Conferences

Reports on International Conferences will be considered, if they will be any.

Parliamentary Committee Reports

The Report of the Committee on National Economy, Trade and Labour Matters on the Ratification of the Membership to the Africa50 Fund Articles of Association for Project Development and Finance will be considered on 25^th March, 2025.

Questions

Hon. Ministers will respond to thirty-two Questions for Oral Answer and Questions for Written Answer. The questions are contained in Appendix I of this statement, which will be circulated to all hon. Members. Further, the details of the questions are contained in the Notices of Questions of 13^th September, 2024, and 5^th March, 2025, which have already been circulated to all hon. Members.

Questions on Standby

The Questions on Standby to replace questions that may not be placed on the Order Paper on the designated day due to unforeseen circumstances are contained in Appendix II, which will be circulated to all hon. Members.  

Suspension of Standing Orders

Her Honour the Vice-President will move a Motion to suspend relevant Standing Orders on Thursday, 27^th March, 2025, to enable the House sit from 0900 hours on Friday, 28^th March, 2025, until all business on the Order Paper is concluded and thereafter, adjourn sine die.

Madam Speaker, on behalf of the House Business Committee and in accordance with Order No. 44 of the National Assembly of Zambia Standing Orders, 2024, I have the pleasure to present the business for next week to this august House.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

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URGENT MATTERS WITHOUT NOTICE

MR KAFWAYA, HON. MEMBER FOR LUNTE, ON MR MWIIMBU, SC., THE HON. MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS AND INTERNAL SECURITY AND ACTING LEADER OF GOVERNMENT BUSINESS IN THE HOUSE, ON THE VALIDATION OF MATRICULATION UNDER THE STUDENT LOAN SCHEME

Mr Kafwaya (Lunte): Madam Speaker, on an Urgent Matter without Notice.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: An Urgent Matter without Notice is raised.

Mr Kafwaya: Madam Speaker, my Urgent Matter without Notice is directed at the hon. Minister of Education, but in his absence, I will direct it to the Acting Leader of Government Business in the House, whom I hope will take note and confer with the substantive hon. Minister or even deal with it.

Madam Speaker, the students at the University of Zambia (UNZA) who are on bursary are suffering over the validation of matriculation under the student loan scheme because of delays by the same Government which gave them the bursaries.

Mr Nkandu: Question!

Mr Kafwaya: Madam Speaker, as I am speaking right now, students are not attending class. As I am speaking, the students are not attending classes; they are lining up in order to validate the matriculation already achieved. It is the same Ministry of Education that listed them and gave them the bursaries which, instead of letting those children go to class to learn like others; those who are paying for themselves, are doing, is telling them to go and line up in order for the process to be verified. Why should children be treated like that? Is the hon. Minister of Education in order to subject UNZA students who are on bursary to that inhuman treatment?

Madam Speaker, I seek your serious direction on the matter because it is important for the Government to be serious about the quality of education that it is rendering to the children.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: I am going to ask the hon. Minister of Education to come to the House on Wednesday to update the nation on what is happening regarding the bursaries for students. The students are supposed to be attending lectures, but they are busy lining up to sort out the matter. So, I ask the hon. Minister of Education to just update the nation on what is happening with regard to that matter.

MR CHANDA, HON. MEMBER FOR KANCHIBIYA, ON MR SYAKALIMA, HON. MINISTER OF EDUCATION, ON THE CRITERIA USED TO RECRUIT TEACHERS IN KANCHIBIYA

Mr Chanda (Kanchibiya): On an Urgent Matter without Notice, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: An Urgent Matter without Notice is raised.

Mr Chanda: Madam Speaker, thank you for giving me this opportunity to raise a matter. I am the bearer of a message from the four Royal Highnesses of Kanchibiya; Senior Chief Kopa, Chief Luchembe, Chief Kabinga and Chief Mpepo. My matter is directed at the hon. Minister of Education.

Madam Speaker, we appreciate the move by the Government to employ teachers, and Kanchibiya has been one of the beneficiaries. Yesterday, when the recruitment list was published, we were shocked to find that only three out of the fifteen teachers assigned to Kanchibiya are local residents. We have about fifty teachers from Kanchibiya in the database. The Royal Highnesses seek clarification from the ministry on the criterion used by the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) to only pick three teachers out of the window that has been opened up for the people of Kanchibiya. The skill is resident within Kanchibiya. We are mindful of the need for us to embrace the “One Zambia, One Nation” spirit, but we also believe that when opportunities open up, especially in new districts like Kanchibiya, first priority must be given to those who are within the district before they can be extended to those outside the district.

Madam Speaker, I seek your guidance on this matter.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Kanchibiya, I advise you to seek clarification from the Ministry of Education simply because I heard that there was an announcement made about another list for replacements, which is coming up. So, maybe, it is better to wait for that list, which we are told will be availed in two weeks’ time. As you are waiting for that list, please, engage the hon. Minister of Education.

I wanted to give the Floor to the hon. Member for Mulobezi. What has gone –

Laughter

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Mulobezi, you may proceed.

ENG. MABENGA, HON. MEMBER FOR MULOBEZI, ON MR SYAKALIMA, HON. MINISTER OF EDUCATION, ON THE CRITERIA USED TO RECRUIT TEACHERS

Eng. Mabenga (Mulobezi): Madam Speaker, thank you very much. My –

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

I am using my discretion.

Mr B. Mpundu rose.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Please, resume your seat, hon. Member.

Mr B. Mpundu resumed his seat.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Mulobezi, we want to hear your voice today.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Eng. Mabenga: Madam Speaker, my question is similar to the one posed by the hon. Member for Kanchibiya and it is directed at the hon. Minister of Education but, since he is not around, maybe, the Leader of Government Business in the House can take it up.

Madam Speaker, the teacher recruitment list was released yesterday, and only two people from my constituency were picked. At present, the youths are mobilising to demonstrate because most of the people who have been sent to the constituency come from different districts. So far, seventy-two teachers have been transferred from Mulobezi to other areas, and still get paid under Mulobezi. So, the district cannot recruit. We just want to find out what criteria is used to recruit teachers.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: My response is still the same the advise I gave to the hon. Member for Kanchibiya, just because there was an announcement about a second list for replacements under which we are going to see teachers being recruited. So, I think that it would be important to wait for that list. Meanwhile, you can engage the hon. Minister of Education so that you can have many of your teachers recruited in your district under that replacement list.

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QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

CONTRUCTION OF A DAM ON MAGOYE RIVER IN MWANACHINGWALA CHIEFDOM

267. Mr Malambo (Magoye) asked the Minister of Water Development and Sanitation:

1. whether the Government has any plans to construct a dam on Magoye River in Mwanachingwala Chiefdom in Magoye Parliamentary Constituency; 
2. if so, when the plans will be implemented;
3. what the cost of the project is; and
4. if there are no such plans, why.

The Minister of Water Development and Sanitation (Eng. Nzovu): Madam Speaker, I wish to inform hon. Members of this House that the Government has no immediate plans to construct a dam on Magoye River in Mwanachingwala Chiefdom in Magoye Parliamentary Constituency.

Madam Speaker, since there are no immediate plans to construct a dam on Magoye River, we do not have an estimated cost.

Madam Speaker, the Government remains committed to addressing water security challenges across the country. In Magoye, the ministry, in collaboration with co-operating partners, is implementing various initiatives to mitigate the negative effects of climate change on water security with a strong focus on catchment restoration and protection rather than dam construction. One such initiative is the Magoye River Catchment Restoration and Protection Plan, which aims to rehabilitate the ecological integrity of the river. The plan seeks to address environmental degradation caused by unco-ordinated and unsustainable human activities ensuring long-term sustainability of water resources.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Malambo: Madam Speaker, I just want to find out if there are any plans to re-assess the need for a dam in Mwanachingwala’s area in the future based on the fact that the area has a lot of pasture and water flowing through Magoye River into the Kafue Flats. The people around that area house over 45,000 heads of cattle, and they are in dire need of that important commodity; water.

Eng. Nzovu: Madam Speaker, indeed, we are carrying out an evaluation in that area. I wish to assure Hon. Malambo that the Government has plans to construct, as announced earlier, sixty dams across the length and breadth of the country. In Magoye, we are prioritising catchment restoration, and improved water management practices to enhance water availability and security in a sustainable manner, instead of constructing a dam immediately. These interventions promote ecosystem conservation, equitable water allocation, and resilience of vital water sources, which will ultimately, support socio-economic development. Furthermore, the Government continues to invest in the maintenance and rehabilitation of existing dams across the country.

Madam Speaker, in Magoye Constituency, particularly in Mwanachingwala Chiefdom, a total of ten dams have been maintained. The ministry, through its provincial and district water development offices, remains actively involved in ensuring the sustainability of water infrastructure projects. I must also add, for the comfort of Hon. Malambo, that what I am talking about are just plans.  In the next one, two to three years, these plans will not be effected.  In the fourth year, as per our plan, Magoye will benefit because we need quite a large dam on the river in that area.  The people of Magoye must be assured that a dam will be constructed. However, we will not stop there.  We wish to assure our people that existing dams will be rehabilitated as well.

Further, Madam Speaker, Hon. Malambo comes from an area that has many cattle and a lot of farming activities.  In that area, we are trying to see if we can enhance conveyancing of this water to the points of need. This means conveyancing systems to where people can irrigate, and to where animals can have access to water.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Chaatila (Moomba): Madam Speaker, the question from the hon. Member for Magoye is whether the Government has any future plans to construct a dam in Mwanachingwala, along the Magoye River. The hon. Minister said that the ministry is undertaking an evaluation.  The hon. Minister went on to indicate other interventions that are currently being done. From the interventions that he indicated, it looks like the evaluation they are carrying out is not for the construction of the dam. So, for the comfort of the people of Mwanachingwala and myself, can the hon. Minister be categorical whether the evaluation they are doing is for the construction of this very important dam in Mwanachingwala.

Eng. Nzovu: Madam Speaker, let me clarify that point.  To construct a dam, one needs to do the designs, the drawings, and an Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA). This is what is being done across the length and breadth of the country, Mwanachingwala included. What we are talking about are immediate plans to start the construction works. I said that we may not start to cast that concrete and the compaction networks immediately.  What we are trying to do across the length and breadth of the country is to come up with designs and bankable projects that we will be able to fund. So, for Mwanachingwala, I can assure the hon. Member that the work is ongoing as we speak right now. Our people must be assured that we are working in the background to prepare for the construction of those dams. What I was talking about were the immediate plans to start the construction of that dam.  I cannot therefore, assure our people in Mwanachingwala that tomorrow or after tomorrow, we will start the construction, but the background work to prepare to start the construction is ongoing. 

Madam Speaker, a few weeks back, we announced our master plan for water harvesting, and there are a thousand dams, which we will prioritise. We understand that that area is quite dry and the need for dams.  I would like to assure our good people of Mwanachingwala and Magoye, that we are preparing to construct that dam in the next few years.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Hamwaata (Pemba): Madam Speaker, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to ask a supplementary question to the hon. Minister of Water Development and Sanitation. The interventions that the hon. Minister has indicated in the long run are very good. However, in the short term, looking at the dire need for water supply in those areas and the number of animals that move long distances to reach water points, would the hon. Minister consider providing water schemes in those areas?

Eng. Nzovu: Madam Speaker, the hon. Member for Pemba has brought another angle, which I should have mentioned myself. I would like to thank him for reminding us.

Madam Speaker, a dam structure is an expensive project, which requires investigations, designs, and all other things and it takes time. However, we have put immediate measures to deal with that situation. In that area, we have a couple of dams that we have rehabilitated. Now, on the specific issue of water schemes, we are also looking at where there is need.  So, maybe, I would invite my brother, Hon. Mweemba, to visit us so that we can see where the dire need is and come up with a specific intervention for that area. We will also give more information about what we are doing on our journey towards constructing that dam.

Madam Speaker, let me appeal to all the other hon. Members of Parliament that the Government is doing everything possible to ensure that its dreams, the pronouncements made by President Hakainde Hichilema to ensure that food, energy, and water security through water harvesting is realised.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Malambo: Madam Speaker, we will definitely visit the hon. Minister’s office very soon. Actually, on Monday, I will be there so that we can take advantage of his answer. My question is: Amongst the sixty dams that the ministry wants to construct in the country, where is Magoye placed, particularly in Mwanachingwala area?

Eng. Nzovu: Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. Member for that question, but to be specific as to where it is placed, I may not have that information right now. However, I can assure the hon. Member that it is sitting very highly.

Madam Speaker, we understand the challenges in that area. Remember, some of the people in that area were displaced during the construction of a dam. When we look at the climatic conditions now, we are receiving less and less rainfall in that area. It is getting hotter in the area due to the effects of climate change. So, Hon. Mweemba’s area is one of our top priorities. We should be able to give him more details when he visits the office on Monday.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Ms S. Mwamba (Kasama Central): Madam Speaker, I will begin by extending my heartfelt condolences to Mwinelubemba and the Bemba Royal Establishment on the passing of Prince Kanyanta, son of Chief Chitimukulu Kanyanta Manga Sosola. May his soul rest in peace.

OPERATIONAL FARMING BLOCKS IN KASAMA DISTRICT

 268. Ms S. Mwamba asked the Minister of Agriculture:

1. how many farming blocks were there in Kasama District, as of June, 2024; and
2. how many were operational, as of the date above.

The Minister of Agriculture (Mr Mtolo): Madam Speaker, Kasama has no farming blocks. However, the Northern Province has one farm block in Kalungwishi, in Lunte District.

Madam Speaker, as in part (a) above, there is no farm block in Kasama District.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Ms. S. Mwamba: Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. Minister for that answer.

Madam Speaker, given the high levels of youth unemployment, would it not be of his considered view that the ministry considers having some farm blocks in Kasama so that some of the young people can find opportunities in primary production as well as agro-processing?

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, probably, the hon. Member should come to the office so that we see if there is land in Kasama, which can be converted to a farming block. Also, the issue she has raised, of farming blocks and agro-processing, can be looked at. As at now, we have not had the opportunity to get the piece of land. I would like the hon. Member to come to the office so that we discuss the issue.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Ms S. Mwamba: Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister has stated that there is a farming block in Kalungwishi, which is in Lunte. What are the main challenges affecting the full operationalisation of the farming block?

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, let me give the hon. Member comfort that the farming block is in operation. Actually, right now, production is taking place in that farming block.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Chisanga (Lukashya): Madam Speaker, in the absence of farming blocks in Kasama, is the ministry giving special consideration to women and youths from Kasama in the allocation of farming blocks?

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, I wish I had information on that and I would have come with it. Definitely, there are smaller settlement areas. The farming blocks under the Ministry of Agriculture are just one part of the farming areas. We have many resettlement areas under the Office of the Vice-President. As I said, if she comes to the office, we can sit down and look at nearby areas.

Mr Chisanga: I will also come to your office.

Laughter

Mr Mtolo: The hon. Member for Lukashya is also free to come. My good friend, the senior counsel, is free to come to the office so that we look at the issue. I want to believe that he has asked that question because he already has areas he has thought about. So, it will be nice to sit together and see what we can do.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Chewe (Lubansenshi): Madam Speaker, the people of Kasama, Lunte and Luwingu are happy that the ministry is trying to look for a piece of land. Now, as the people of the Northern Province, particularly Kasama and Luwingu, we would like to know when the ministry is likely to start conducting feasibility studies in areas where farming blocks can be created, so that the people of Kasama can be comforted that, indeed, maybe in 2025, such a programme will commence.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, what the hon. Member is asking for has been done. I think, I have come here and indicated that in Lusaka, the farming block is in Shikabeta. In Muchinga, the farming block is in Hon. Kapyanga’s area. In the Northern Province, it is in Lunte. In Luapula Province, it is in Kawambwa. In the Western Province, it is in Kalumwange. In the Southern Province, it is in Musokotwane’s area. In the North-Western Province, it is in Solwezi. I have come to the House and given these details before. I am very happy to discuss any productive issue on this so that I alert hon. Members. As they go on break, they can go and inform their constituents. These are the type of debates this country wants.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Eng. Daka (Chadiza): Madam Speaker, are there specific incentives at the farming land in Kalungwishi?

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, can the hon. Member ask the question again? I was –

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Chadiza, go ahead and repeat the question.

Eng. Daka: Madam Speaker, are there incentives at the farming land in Kalungwishi ? Are there incentives that can attract youths to be –

Interruptions

Mr Mtolo rose.

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Members!

Lower your voices. The hon. Minister has resumed his seat.

Hon. Member for Chadiza, have you finished asking your question?

Eng. Daka: Madam Speaker, no.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Please, continue.

Eng. Daka: Madam Speaker, the people of Chadiza, on behalf of the people of Kasama, want to find out if there are specific incentives to attract masses of youths to go and farm at Kalungwishi Farming Block?

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, the answer is yes. We are building roads and providing electricity in the farming blocks. We are also providing electricity where we can. Other social requirements are being provided by the Government free of charge. I can give you examples. In Kawambwa, we are connecting electricity to the farming block. In Nansanga and Shikabeta farming blocks, we have built roads. We are also providing water in a number of these areas. Those are the incentives because we want everybody in Zambia to cultivate something. 

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: The last hon. Member should stick to the question by the hon. Member for Kasama Central.

Dr Mwanza (Kaumbwe): Madam Speaker, the establishment of farming blocks comes with provision of services like water, electricity, roads and so on and so forth. The hon. Minister has explained where the farming blocks are. Does the ministry have room in its budget to establish other farming blocks?

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, the answer is yes. Where there is land, I think, we can seriously sit and consider that. However, it is important for Zambians to know that land has already been cleared. What we really need to do is improve productivity. We are getting 2 tonnes there. If we got even 5 tonnes or 8 tonnes, we would have multiplied what we are producing currently. So, instead of clearing trees, let us try to do proper things on the land that is already cleared. We are also driving that agenda as we talk about the answer to his question.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

PLANS TO TRAIN PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLE DRIVERS

269. Eng. Mabenga (Mulobezi) asked the Minister of Transport and Logistics:

1. whether the Government has any plans to train public service vehicle drivers in defensive driving so as to reduce road carnage;
2. if so, when the plans will be implemented; and
3. what other measures are being taken to enhance adherence to road traffic rules and regulations by public service vehicle drivers.

The Minister of Transport and Logistics (Tayali): Madam Speaker, defensive driving is one of the key components in the training and testing of all drivers seeking a Public Service Vehicle (PSV) Driving Licence conducted by the Road Transport and Safety Agency (RTSA).

Madam Speaker, as stated above, all persons with PSV driver’s licences undergo defensive divining testing and training.

Madam Speaker, in a bid to enhance adherence to rules and regulations on the road, the Government is undertaking the following:

1. revising the regulations to address bad road user behaviour. The Government has issued various Statutory Instruments (SIs) to influence road user behaviour. These include regulations to restrict night driving, installing global positioning systems (GPS), restricting driving hours of any one PSV driver, prescribing speed limits and allowances and introducing a demerit point system on driving licences, among others; and
2. enhancing enforcement of regulations by leveraging on information and communication technologies (ICTs), such as the Smart City Project, and encouraging the installation of GPS trackers in PSVs.

Madam Speaker, I thank you

Eng. Mabenga: Madam Speaker, I would like to thank the hon. Minister for the elaborate answers. I just want to find out whether there are any plans to sensitise people via radio programmes, especially passengers, on over speeding of vehicles.

Mr Tayali: Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. Member for that pertinent question.

Madam Speaker, in its operations, the Road Transport and Safety Agency (RTSA) has an education programme that not only takes the agency to media houses such as radio stations, but also enables it to conduct informative programmes on television. It also makes visits to critical learning institutions such as primary schools and institutions of higher learning to sensitise learners on the need for observance of road rules that are put in place to ensure that the road safety profile in the country is improved.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Mutale (Chitambo): Madam Speaker, I am grateful for the opportunity.

Madam Speaker, Zambia is part of the Southern African Development Community (SADC) region. If the hon. Minister went to some states in the SADC region, he would discover that sometimes the road patrol police would spend weeks on sensitising people. They would stop vehicles and give out flyers to educate people about road safety and awareness. I do not see that happening in Zambia. When is the Government going to introduce a similar system in our country so that we can see advancement in terms of sensitisation on road safety, other than just impounding vehicles?

Mr Tayali: Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. Member for Chitambo for a good question. I want to agree with him that, indeed, in certain jurisdictions, our friends have reached a high level of co-operation between law enforcement officers and drivers. Such a situation arises from attaining a high level of self-regulation by road users. We need to do a lot in our country to encourage people to behave probably, even when there are no law enforcement officers present.

 

Madam Speaker, there is lot of impunity in the way people sometimes conduct themselves. In some cases, the only deterrent is the sight of a law enforcement officer. So, there is a lot that we must do to entrench road safety rules observance in people. That is why I mentioned that we must start from the school system, all the way up to driving schools. We need to sort out the curriculum used at various levels so as to impart important knowledge in people, which will ultimately save lives.

Madam Speaker, when we reach a certain level of cordiality between law enforcement officers and drivers, then we will know that we are getting somewhere. We have observed a tendency in this country by some drivers to reduce the speed of a vehicle when they see law enforcement officers, but as soon as they pass the officers checking the speed limit, they increase the speed to as much as 180 km per hour. I think that is extremely reckless and it must be discouraged.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Eng. Mabenga: Madam Speaker, I want to find out whether there are any plans to distribute the Highway Code, especially in rural areas like Mulobezi where it has never been seen before.

Mr Tayali: Madam Speaker, I want to put it on record that, indeed, that would be the ideal situation. However, due to the scarcity of resources, we are not able to distribute the Highway Code in rural areas as well as make it available in local languages. So, as soon as the fiscal space allows, that is definitely the direction we will be moving in.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Kampyongo (Shiwang’andu): Madam Speaker, I would like to commend the hon. Member of Parliament for Mulobezi for binging up the question because we have lost many lives due to the recklessness of drivers of public service vehicles (PSVs). It is even worse for us who use the Great North Road because there are drivers from Eastern Africa with trucks on the road. They are undisciplined, just like bus drivers, and they are the one who are causing harm on the road. Whenever you use the Great North Road, you find either two or three road traffic accidents. What has happed to the measure of limiting the speed on public buses because we have heard that some operators are finding a way of beating the system? What is the Government doing about that situation?

Mr Tayali: Madam Speaker, that is an important question. Allow me to put it on record that there is a promulgation of a lot of laws, which, unfortunately, are blatantly being disregarded. The laws are still in place and this is what I earlier referred to as the impunity of lack of safe-regulation. As long as there is no officer in sight, drivers want to behave any way they want. So, the laws are there. Soon rather than later, the subject of recruitment of honourary road traffic inspectors will be implemented so that we can beef up on the officers to be deployed out there to ensure that erring drivers are brought to book. We have also heightened the need for all PSVs to be equipped with GPS so that we are able to monitor the speed that most buses are driven at.

Madam Speaker, the unfortunate part is that when we mete out punishment on PSV drivers, some of whom have been found to be moving as faster as 180 km per hour, and their licence is suspended, there has been public uproar that we are not helping bus operators. That is a very unfortunate tendency because we are not here to break or disturb the business culture in the country, but to bring about a culture of observing and respecting safety on our roads.  Road safety is not just for those in vehicles, but for other road users as well.  So, we will not relent in ensuring that we get to a day where there is cordiality between drivers and law enforcement officers. I am sure all hon. Members of this august House will agree with me on the fact that this country has lost many lives through road traffic accidents (RTAs). Statistically, close to about 60 per cent of all fatalities have happened on the Ndola/Lusaka Road. That is why the Government felt it was prudent to prioritise upgrading the road into a dual carriageway. We have all seen the progress that is being made on the works on the road. Once works on the road are completed, we look forward to seeing a drastic reduction in the number of accidents and fatalities.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

ENCROACHED TOBACCO BOARD OF ZAMBIA LAND IN CHADIZA

270. Eng.  Daka (Chadiza) asked the Minister of Agriculture:

1. whether the Government is aware that the Tobacco Board of Zambia (TBZ) land in Chadiza Parliamentary Constituency has been encroached upon;
2. whether the Government is aware that some squatters on the TBZ land have been selling portions of the land; and
3. if so, what measures are being taken to reclaim and protect the land from encroachment.

The Minister of Agriculture (Mr Mtolo): Madam Speaker, the Government has received reports that the Tobacco Board of Zambia (TBZ) land in Chadiza has been encroached on. The Government has also received reports of purported illegal land sales by some of the squatters, and that is a matter of concern, as the land in question was designated for tobacco development –

Mr Mtolo indicated to Ms Tambatamba who spoke to Mr Tayali.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Minister of Agriculture, is it the hon. Ministers next to you?

You may continue.

Laughter

Mr Mtolo: Sorry, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, the Government has received reports of purported illegal land sales by some of the squatters, which is a matter of concern, as the land in question was designated for tobacco development programmes and remains in the TBZ books. The ministry, in collaboration with the TBZ and other relevant authorities, including local councils, has been monitoring the situation to prevent further unauthorised land transactions.

Madam Speaker, the Government, through the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources, the Ministry of Agriculture, and law enforcement agencies have taken the following measures to reclaim and protect the land:

1. land audits and mapping. We are conducting land audits to establish the extent of encroachment and identify legitimate occupants;
2.  legal and administrative actions. Engagements have been initiated with the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources, and relevant local authorities to address unauthorised occupations and prevent illegal land sales. That also constitutes the second phase of the property valuation exercise, which is recommended to ensure that titles are obtained for all viable identified land;
3. sensitisation and stakeholder engagement. The Government is working with local communities, traditional leaders and local authorities to educate them on the legal status of TBZ land and discourage encroachment. That is done periodically through stakeholder meetings;
4. regulatory and policy enforcement. The TBZ, in conjunction with the Ministry of Agriculture, is strengthening its regulatory framework –

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

The voices are too loud at the back.

Hon. Minister, you may continue.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, the TBZ, in conjunction with the Ministry of Agriculture, is strengthening its regulatory framework to ensure that land designated for tobacco production remains protected for its intended purpose; and

1. collaboration with law enforcement. The Government is considering legal action, where necessary, to safeguard TBZ land and prevent further encroachment. The Government remains committed to ensuring that land meant for agricultural development, particularly in strategic sectors like tobacco processing, is utilised effectively in line with national economic objectives.

 Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Eng.  Daka: Madam Speaker, I am satisfied with the hon. Minister’s response. However, do the caretakers, who have been put on the said piece of land by the Tobacco Board of Zambia (TBZ), have the authority to stop the Government from implementing projects, like construction of a clinic or school? In one of my wards; Tikondane Ward, for example, TBZ caretakers stopped the Government from constructing a health post. I would like to find out, on behalf of the people of Chadiza, whether the caretakers have the authority to stop the Government from implementing any project.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, unfortunately, the answer is yes. If an hon. Member would like to construct a hospital on land that belongs to the TBZ or any ministry, it is only important that the hon. Member asks the owner of the land, not caretakers. The caretakers will just stop the hon. Member from doing whatever he wants to do, and they will not compromise. If the hon. Member wrote to the ministry expressing that he would like to construct a clinic in such an area, surely, we would talk at that level and agree to do the right thing.

I thank you. Madam Speaker.

Eng. Daka: Madam Speaker, I would not say that they are caretakers. I am talking about the people identified by the TBZ to care for the piece of land with authority. If those people were aware that I needed to write to the ministry to get authority to undertake the project, they would have guided me accordingly. However, they basically refused saying that the project could not be undertaken. I just wanted to make that comment.

Madam Speaker, those people have constructed private properties, including drilling boreholes. I believe that is state land. As a Member of Parliament, I would like to know who owns the housing units that those people have constructed and boreholes sunk on the said land.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, the hon. Member has raised a serious and broad problem. There was a period, in the past, during which many illegal things happened. Some form of disorderliness was going on. People would find a piece of land, drill a borehole there and build structures without finding out who owns it. We have instituted an audit on all TBZ land in areas where the company operates. In particular, I have all the information on the land in Chadiza. All the activities that the hon. Member has seen are illegal and wrong. The developers will end up losing their property to the State. Disorderly conduct was perpetrated for people to have access to land that did not belong to them.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Sampa (Matero) Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister’s responses on land encroachment in Chadiza apply to every other part of the country. People build anyhow, yet there is a law about that. Specific to Chadiza and the Eastern Province, does the hon. Minister not think that the people encroached on that land because of hunger? Why does the ministry not consider giving them that land to start growing tobacco; fodya, and maize to eat than supporting the Tobacco Board of Zambia (TBZ), which is owned by an investor from outside? Does the hon. Minister not think that the land should be given to the people of Chadiza to grow fodya so that they can export the product and make money?

Madam First Deputy Speaker: What is “fodya” hon. Member?

Mr Sampa: Hon. B. Mpundu says it is dobo. I do not know what dobo is. Fodya is a cigarette that the Ngoni people export. It is also called dobo, I am told.

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, let us put things in order. Firstly, the Tobacco Board of Zambia (TBZ) is 100 per cent a Government of Zambia institution, not a foreign entity. Secondly, the illegality that was being allowed should be stopped so that we do things properly. We will not allow people to encroach on a piece of land, and even start building just because we want to promote food production, No!  Otherwise, our country will become lawless, and it will be a chaotic situation. We need to start doing things properly. Unfortunately, this was allowed during the time when the hon. Member was a Minister and he knows what he is talking about. I think he is taking his cousinship very far by claiming that the Ngoni people grow a certain type of tobacco for export. Hon. Sampa will be in trouble.

Laughter

Mr Sampa: Question!

Mr Mtolo: And you, (pointed at Hon. B. Mpundu), do not look down.

Mr B. Mpundu: Me?

Mr Mtolo: Yes, you.

Laughter

Rev. Katuta: Question!

Mr Mtolo:  Madam Speaker, Kasongo is always looking for trouble.  Even this morning, he is looking for trouble.

Interruptions

Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, on a serious note, we will do the right things and take care of the very important issues that the hon. Member for Chadiza raised. I wish to not dilute it with a light position because it is a serious issue. The land has been encroached everywhere, in the Eastern, the Southern, Lusaka, the Western and Central parts of the country.  Land is being encroached by lawlessness, especially, in the past ten years. So, we will correct the situation.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Ms S. Mwamba (Kasama Central): Madam Speaker, tobacco farming causes quite a lot of environmental degradation. Does the Government have any plans to possibly convert the land for the Tobacco Board of Zambia (TBZ) in Chadiza into a farm block that can grow some climate-smart crops?

 Mr Mtolo: Madam Speaker, let me take this position to educate the hon. Member for Kasama. Tobacco is not only dangerous when you consume it, but also disturbs the chemistry of the soil.  Once you plant tobacco, you need at least five years or so for that soil to neutralise so that you can cultivate adequate maize. This is important for Hon. Sampa to know. You do not plant tobacco and the following year you plant maize, otherwise your maize production will be poor. So, be careful. We, the Ministry of Agriculture, are promoting the production of tobacco. What is in question is the consumption of tobacco.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

RECOGNISED CHIEFS IN THE WESTERN PROVINCE

271. Mr Miyutu (Kalabo Central) asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development:

1. how many recognised chiefs there were in the Western Province, as of December 2024;
2. how many chiefs, if any, were not recognised, as of December 2024; 
3. why the chiefs at (b) were not recognised; and
4. whether chiefs are paid a salary.

he Minister of Local Government and Rural Development (Mr Nkombo): Madam Speaker, allow me to inform this august House that we have eleven chiefs, namely:

1. The Litunga;
2. Litunga La Mboela;
3. Mboanjikana – Vacant;
4. Imwiko;
5. Lukama;
6. Yeta;
7. Kandala - Vacant;
8. Namayula - Vacant;
9. Chiengele;
10. Kahare - Vacant; and
11. Mutondo.

Madam Speaker, there were five vacant thrones in the Western Province as of December 2024. Four of them were awaiting traditional processes of selection and installation, while one is under litigation before a court of law.

Madam Speaker, as of December 2024, all the eleven chiefs were recognised and as stated in part (b) above, all of them were recognised.

Madam Speaker, chiefs are not paid salaries, but subsidies to help them maintain the status of the Office of the Chief, as provided for under Section 8 of the Chiefs Act, Cap 287, of the Laws of Zambia.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Madam First Deputy Speaker:  Before I take supplementary questions, I have an announcement.

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ANNOUNCEMENT BY MADAM FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER

PUPILS AND TEACHERS FROM BERTHA SCHOOL

Madam First Deputy Speaker:  Hon. Members, I wish to recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of pupils and teachers from Bertha School in Monze District.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Mr B. Mpundu: Icabaiche!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: On behalf of the National Assembly of Zambia, I warmly welcome our visitors into our midst.

I thank you.

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Madam First Deputy Speaker: We can now proceed with supplementary questions under the Questions for Oral Answer segment.

Mr Miyutu:  Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. Minister for that good response. I would like to get further clarification on the issuance of the National Registration Cards (NRCs). An NRC would show the name of a particular chief designated to that area where we reside. However, I have observed that the chiefs, despite owning or reigning over those locations where the Government has allowed them to be rulers to enable us get our NRCs, they are not given any allowance. What could be the reason?

Mr Nkombo: Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. Member of Parliament for Kalabo Central for the question. How I wish he could have given me an example of a chief who exists on a National Registration Card (NRC) but is not given a subsidy. My suspicion is that the chiefs in question are many in the country. I want to submit that the question the hon. Member is asking me is extremely sensitive because it is at the heart of the chiefdoms recognised in 1958. As you know, we have had several Administrations in the country, starting from the administration led by late Dr David Kenneth Kaunda to the one led by our seventh president, President Hakainde Hichilema.

Madam Speaker, there are more than 286 chiefs in the country, but those who are gazetted are only 286. As such, the status quo remains how we found it. An example I can give from the top of my head is Chief Kangombe or, maybe, Chief Mweene Mundu. I am sure that is where the hon. Member’s question stems from, because Mweene Mundu is from Kalabo. This is just to show the hon. Member that I have a fair understanding of what is going on. Yes, NRCs might bear the names of the chiefs who are not gazetted because that is the status quo, and we are not about to change it.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Member for Kalabo Central, do you have a question?

Mr Miyutu indicated dissent.

Mr Anakoka (Luena): Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister, in his response to the hon. Member for Kalabo Central, indicated that he wished he knew any chiefs who are actually on National Registration Cards (NRCs), but are not recognised when it comes to allowances. Indeed, we have a situation like that in the Western Province. There are many chiefs like that. Just in Luena Constituency, there is Chief Sibeta, Chief Mokanelamo, Chief Lubinda Tanga, Chief Lukamba and many other chiefs. These chiefs are duly recognised by the Barotse Royal Establishment (BRE) and they carry out all the functions that chiefs should carry out. Unfortunately, they are not gazetted. So, a huge mismatch has been created because the Government recognises chiefs for NRC purposes, but does not recognise them when it comes to giving them the support it gives to the chiefs who are gazetted. Is the Government going to consider revisiting the decision or selection of chiefs to be gazetted and those not to be gazetted?

Mr Nkombo: Madam Speaker, I think, my hon. Colleague and friend has just made a navigation to ask the same question that his hon. Colleague asked me. In my answer, I was very clear that as at now, we are not about to take that route. Whilst we recognise the important functions that chiefs play, I can tell the hon. Member of Parliament for Luena that, the situation in his constituency is not different from mine. Where I come from, under the big chiefdom of Mwanachingwala, there are chiefs like Chief Siowi recognised in name only, not gazetted. There are many such chiefs. We do not want to open a can of worms by taking the route that our predecessors clearly put aside.

Madam Speaker, in my maiden answer, I indicated how sensitive this question is, and because it is not my style to offend, I will say that we are fully aware about the existence of chiefdoms that are not gazetted by the Government. We are fully aware of those chiefs and we give them the respect they deserve. Because we do not want to reinvent the wheel, for now, the status quo remains as we found it from our forefathers who lived before us.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr Wamunyima (Nalolo): Madam Speaker, I would like to thank the hon. Minister for being honest that this remains a sensitive issue. However, the Western Province has a different traditional system, which he is aware of. Is he aware that if he maintained that we cannot open a can of worms, the issue will continue to be outstanding and could escalate? If the hon. Minister is aware, what plans does he have? As hon. Members of Parliament in those areas, we experience this every now and then. The issue can escalate any time to the detriment of the unity of the country. Does the hon. Minister have plans to normalise this legacy issue?

Laughter

Mr Nkombo: My neighbour is saying ‘may God give you wisdom.’

Laughter

Mr Nkombo: Thank you for your prayers.

Madam Speaker, there is a lot of consternation, especially in the Western Province, regarding the entire establishment. It is a subject I am not scared to discuss, but I must always attach the sensitivity that comes with it. The hon. Member is asking if the situation can escalate if left unchecked. I wish to respond by saying that there have been Governments before this Government. The one thing that this Government has done, that many Governments were a bit shy to do, was to officially produce the 1958 map. We produced and shared officially the 1958 map, which many Governments were extremely shy to do. I can tell my brother and friend now, that upon the release of that particular document, there was consternation. There was escalation of the boundaries and existences of chiefdoms to the extent that in certain cases, the palace of one chief was found to be in another chief’s land. What that calls for, is leadership, to understand that there were people before us. There were living people, warm bodies, before us.

Madam Speaker, these maps of chiefdoms were established by colonialists by law. They are the ones who produced them. Those who have institutional memory, like the chiefs in the Southern Province, which I will use as an example, know very well that despite the palace of Chief Muchila, if I am correct, being found in the chiefdom of Chief Chikanta, these chiefs are civil enough to say to each other that they know the boundaries and will respect them as established by those who established them, not the colonialists. The colonialists, divided the chiefdoms in the same manner that they did when they sat at the Berlin Conference to demarcate Africa. At the Berlin Conference, that is where they demarcated Africa. Am I right? There were topographic features that they followed. For example, if you ask a Tonga person like me or the hon. Members of Parliament for Sinazongwe or Gwembe, they will tell you that the boundary of the Kariba Dam, which is the Zambezi River, split families. There are Tongas across in Binga in Zimbabwe and there are Tongas in Zambia as well. The situation of chiefdom maps is similar to what happened during the time of the Berlin Wall and it requires a civil society. I am talking about a society that is civil and not a civil society as it is known in the current day. Another example I can give is that half of the palace for Chief Chongo is in Chief Hamusonde’s chiefdom, according to the 1958 map for chiefdoms in Zambia.

Madam Speaker, my advice to our royal highnesses is that there is need for civility when dealing with the issue of chiefdom boundaries. That way, we will live in harmony. My plea is that we leave the issue of escalating chiefdom disputes, especially in the Western Province, for a different day. I wish to confirm to the hon. Member who asked the question that I was confronted with that question by the Ngambela, sitting as the Kuta, in Limulunga. We spent a lot of time explaining the Government’s position regarding the chiefs of the Nkoya, the Lozi’s and the Mbunda’s. As we all know, especially those who come from the Western Province, there are highly sensitive issues surrounding those tribes. Therefore, we have to navigate the issues with the co-operation of everyone so that we can have a peaceful co-existence.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

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MOTION

MOTION OF THANKS

(Debate resumed)

The Minister of Infrastructure, Housing and Urban Development (Eng. Milupi): Madam Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity to add my voice to the Motion and join the many hon. Members of this august House who have paid glowing tributes to the speech by Mr Hakainde Hichilema, President of the Republic of Zambia, on the Progress Made in the Application of National Values and Principles delivered to the House on Friday, 28^th February, 2025. The President was articulate in outlining the success scored by the nation since his last address in 2024. He ably covered the National Values and Principles enshrined in our Republican Constitution, namely morality and ethics, patriotism and national unity, democracy and constitutionalism, human dignity, equity, social justice, equality and non-discrimination, good governance and integrity and sustainable development.

Madam Speaker, the President and the entire New Dawn Administration have high regard for the National Values and Principles. As the Government, we continue to advocate to people, including our hon. Colleagues on your left, the importance of living by those values and principles. The President has always preached national unity, rule of law, equity and social justice. He has gone further by governing the country using those principles.

Madam Speaker, as the country approaches the 2026 General Elections, I support the President’s call for all of us to adherence to the National Values and Principles in order to guarantee peace and unity in the country. The President in his speech pointed out how our values of resilience, hard work and unity were tested in 2024, when we faced the harshest drought in living memory. The impact of that calamity was deeply felt across all sectors of our economy, particularly agriculture, energy and water supply. The declaration of a national disaster by the President and the nation’s response was anchored on our values and principles of patriotism, national unity, human dignity, equity, equality and non-discrimination. The country responded to the President’s declaration and together we averted loss of life. The nation’s response to the disaster reached every corner of this country, both in urban and rural areas, and jobs were protected and livelihoods were sustained.

Madam Speaker, improving the welfare of youths is core to the President’s vision of a better Zambia. This is why he is focused on growing the economy in order to sustain the provision of free education and other social services to our people, as well as creating jobs and business opportunities for youths and women. President Hakainde Hichilema believes in creating a productive society where hard work is cherished much more than ill-gotten wealth or a society where citizens prosper legally and not though corruption, theft of public resources, abuse of office or other fraudulent means. Such vices must be frowned upon as they are against our values as a nation.

Madam Speaker, to safeguard public resources in the implementation of infrastructure projects, the President has, in line with our values and principles, guided that all works must be procured at the correct price, delivered according to prescribed quality and within a specified time. That directive has contributed to increased transparency, zero tolerance to corruption and attainment of value for money in the implementation of infrastructure projects by the New Dawn Administration. Patriotism and national unity are fundamental in building a cohesive society. In this regard, President Hakainde Hichilema has given national unity top priority, despite the many detractors who want this country to remain divided for their own selfish reasons.

Madam Speaker, as I conclude, I wish to reiterate my ministry’s commitment to supporting the Government and the country in the implementation of our national values and principles. To this effect, my ministry will ensure that infrastructure development is equitably delivered to all parts of this country without discrimination. My ministry will ensure that job opportunities are created for all Zambians on infrastructure projects, regardless of one’s gender, age or other factors such as whom one voted for, unlike our predecessors who took development to only those areas that they perceived supported them. So, we are taking infrastructure development to all corners of this country.

Madam Speaker, our national values and principles can be sustained when we develop the necessary infrastructure to support economic activity to grow our economy, create opportunities for our people and raise living standards. Improved livelihoods through the construction of peace and affordable housing will give our people the dignity they seek so much and make it easier for them to appreciate the important values and principles that we have adopted for ourselves.

Madam Speaker, I once again want to thank you for this opportunity and convey my favourable recommendations on the President’s Speech.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.): Madam Speaker, I am grateful for this opportunity to contribute to the debate on the Motion of Thanks on the speech delivered by Mr Hakainde Hichilema, President of the Republic of Zambia and Commander-In-Chief of the Defence Forces, on Friday, 28^th February, 2025, on the Progress Made in the Application of National Values and Principles.

Madam Speaker, before I proceed, I want to state that this is a House of values and principles. We, on your right, have noted with concern that our hon. Colleagues on your left do not adhere to the values and principles of the House and the nation. They made allegations and demanded answers from us but before we could give them the answers, they walked out of the House. What values and principles do they have?

Hon. UPND Members: None!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: None.

Madam Speaker, the President’s Address re-affirmed Zambia’s commitment to its constitutional values, fostering national unity, social justice and a prosperous future. The President emphasised transparency, accountability and addressing pressing issues, like child marriages, teenage pregnancies and gender-based violence (GBV).

Madam Speaker, over the years, the country has witnessed an alarming rise in the abuse of cyberspace, which in many instances has led to the tarnishing of personalities, loss of property and ruining of people’s lives, to mention but a few. If that trend is not curtailed, it has the potential to disrupt economic development. We are making strides in addressing cybercrimes and abuse of cyberspace by working towards strengthening the legal framework governing the cyberspace. We have since brought the Cyber Crimes Bill and Cyber Security Bill before this House to seek support to enact the laws to curb the abuse of the cyber environment. Unfortunately, some perpetrators of cybercrimes in this country are aided and abetted by leaders in this House. I call upon my hon. Colleagues to desist from that practice. Cybercrimes have destroyed lives. A number of our hon. Colleagues in this House and outside have been targeted and abused, and money has been lost in the course of cybercrimes.

Madam Speaker, GBV has continued to be a great source of concern despite notable efforts aimed at reducing incidences. In 2024, the ministry had 42,178 reported cases. In 2023, the number was 42,965. There has been a slight reduction but still, the number of GBV cases in this country is too high. To ensure that the fight against GBV yields more positive results, the ministry has strengthened collaboration and co-ordination with stakeholders, including traditional leaders and civil society organisations (CSOs). We have incorporated GBV information into the Zambia Police Service curriculum to ensure that all police officers acquire skills to professionally deal with GBV cases and assist GBV survivors.

Madam Speaker, drug and substance abuse is another source of concern in our communities, particularly for youths. In 2024, the Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC) received 5,148 drug and substance abuse reports, out of which 4,269 were investigated and concluded. The commission busted eighty-five cartels involved in local and international drug trafficking. The commission has continued to implement sensitisation and counselling services to help drug-dependent persons. In the same year, the commission also conducted 3,355 drug awareness activities and provided counselling services to 1,227 persons of which 469 were successfully re-integrated into schools and their respective families.

Madam Speaker, protection of both private and public property is a priority for the New Dawn Administration. During the period under consideration, the Zambia Police Service  recorded 233 cases of vandalism in which property worth K2,362,091 was lost. Out of the cases recorded, 173 were successfully investigated. Thanks to the policies of the New Dawn Government, our citizens, including CSOs, can now associate and freely express their opinions without fear of victimisation.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Madam Speaker, dignity has been restored in our public places, such as bus stations and markets. One can now walk into those places without fear of being intimidated by anyone. For many years, we yearned for that, and it is now a reality. We have strengthened the Police Public Complaints Commission (PPCC) alongside establishing functional integrity committees to ensure that oversight is provided over the conduct of police officers and other law enforcement officers.

Madam Speaker, our correctional facilities have continued to transform the lives of our people who find themselves on the other side of the law. We have continued to implement efforts to reduce congestion in the facilities. As part of our efforts to decongest our facilities and accord inmates more humane custody, we are completing the construction of six dormitories with a holding capacity of 1,600 inmates at the Nansanga correctional facility in Serenje and the construction of 1,850 capacity ultra-modern facility in Mwembeshi, and further opening up new open-air correctional facilities.

Madam Speaker, I have noted the comments that have been made by members of the public on the intended constitutional amendments. I have been in this House for almost …

Hon. UPND Member: Quarter of a century!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: … a quarter of a decade, as a Member of Parliament.

Laughter

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Madam Speaker, I have participated in a number of constitutional reviews. One of the major issues that is always raised by members of the public and all the commissions of inquiry is women representation in this House.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Madam Speaker, as the United Party for National Development (UPND) Government, we have committed ourselves to ensuring that we increase women representation in this House. Alas, we have heard voices telling us that we should not amend the Constitution, and that we should wait until after 2026.

Mr Nkandu: Why?

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Madam Speaker, the House should take note that if we wait until after the 2026 Elections – I am speaking to the ladies who are representing our fellow citizens – ­ we will continue to have fewer women in this House until 2031.

Hon. Opposition Members: No!

Rev. Katuta: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: That is a fact.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Minister!

The hon. Minister’s time expired.

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Hon. Minister, please, wind up. Your time is up.

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Yes, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, I know that the hon. Member for Lundazi is the Deputy Secretary-General of the Patriotic Front (PF).

Ms Nyirenda: On a point of order, Madam Speaker.

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: The women want proper representation on the Floor of this House.

Interruptions

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: I call upon ­

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: Madam Speaker, I call upon all women to stand up …

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: … and demand that we amend the Constitution …

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order, hon. Minister!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: … so that there is increased representation …

Interruptions

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Mr Mwiimbu, SC.: … on the Floor of this House.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. UPND Members: Hear, hear!

Madam First Deputy Speaker: Order!

Business was suspended from 1040 hours until 1100 hours.

[MR SECOND DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MR SECOND DEPUTY SPEAKER

ACTING GOVERNMENT CHIEF WHIP

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to inform you that Hon. Jamba is the Acting Government Chief Whip for today.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Before Business was suspended, the hon. Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security had just concluded his debate.

The Minister of Justice (Ms Kasune): Mr Speaker, I thank you and indeed, your office for giving me this opportunity to add the voice of the Ministry of Justice in thanking the President of this Republic of Zambia for the Speech he delivered to this august House, on 28^th February, 2025.

Mr Speaker, in supporting the President’s Speech, I wish to inform this House that considerable strides have been made towards good governance, democracy, human rights and protection of all our citizens, which I will endeavour to highlight in my supportive speech as Minister of Justice. However, before I dive into what I want to speak on from the ministry’s point of view, I want to raise a very fundamental issue which relates to values and principles in this country because that is what the President came to speak to us about. This is what this country is founded upon, not only as a democratic nation, but as a Christian nation.

Mr Speaker, I am not only speaking to men inside and outside this House, but also to all women. What has happened in our country for children to be used for sexual fulfilment?  Not too long ago, we learnt of a family of six, where the father of the children was abusing four of them.  There was also a video clip on social media of a ten-year-old child whose father said that she was his second wife.  How low can we go as a nation or society while we are here as representatives of the people? Laws have been made, but what is happening is sickening. This disturbs all of us because now, it is beyond the law. As Zambians, it is our role to interrogate ourselves why our morals have decayed.

Mr Speaker, I am holding my tears. As if that is not enough.  A father who was supposed to protect his seven-year-old child cancer patient had the audacity to rape and defile her whilst in the University Teaching Hospital (UTH). Is that not sickness? The Government can only do so much. The Government has created laws, but I think we need to interrogate the mental state of people in this country. We need to begin to deal with mental issues.  We need to deal with the perpetrators in a strong manner because people are getting away with a lot of things. Those children’s mental health is damaged for the rest of their lives.

Mr Speaker, why are men doing that to our children when we, their size, are here?

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, what is wrong with these men? We, their age group are here.  There are women out there who want men, but the men are busy abusing our children. Nchishi chitochitika?

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Minister, repeat what you just said. We did not hear you properly.

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, I just what to know what is happening.  I am telling the men that we, their age group, are ready to take them on because tuli muma final. 

Interruptions

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, we are in the finals. Any woman who is forty years and above knows that she is in her final years. Why do men rape and defile our children when we are available for them? 

Hon. Members: Question!

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, this is unacceptable. It is a disgrace, and it is at the peak of the bottom of the lost values and principles. (Ms Kasune took a deep breath) Very sickening! It calls for all of us –

Interruptions

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, even female hon. Members of Parliament at the Backbench are saying that they are available. 

Hon. Members: You are very few here.

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, this is a serious matter that we need to address as a nation because it is right under the values and principles of this nation.

Mr Speaker, one of the things that I want to speak to, especially with the conversation around the Constitutional amendment is that we should not be picky and choosy. I want to adopt the debate by the hon. Minister for Luapula Province. He debated so eloquently. I feel that my speech this morning will be a repetition.

Mr Speaker, as Minister of Justice, I call upon Zambians to read the Constitution in totality. One of the things the hon. Minister spoke about yesterday was the fact that the Patriotic Front (PF) Government agreed to delimitate constituencies. The PF Government did not do that in a vacuum. It agreed to delimitation because the report that came out in 2019 spoke to the fact that ninety-four constituencies would be added. So, why then, do we want to pretend or say that it was not there or that there is no document?

Ms Tambatamba: Imagine.

Ms Kasune: Now the United Party for National Development (UPND) Government is being blamed for gerrymandering. In short, people are trying to use the delimitation process to bring in other issues. Article 79 on the Constitution –

Ms Tambatamba: Read it for them.

Ms Kasune: She is saying I should read it for them.

Ms Tambatamba: Read it for them.

Ms Kasune: It will eat into my time.

Mr Speaker, this is one article of the Constitution which was never amended. The reason that hon. Members read the amended Constitution of 2016 and see that Article 79 is not there is that it was never amended. What does that article say? Article 79 says the following:

“Subject to the provision of this Article, Parliament may alter this Constitution or the Constitution of Zambia Act, 1991.”

Mr Speaker, every Constitution that we read is still the Constitution of Zambia of 1991. Hence, every Constitution, whether it is from 1996 or 2016, is amended.  Why did we not alter that article? It is because we knew that this House represents the hon. Members of Parliament who speak on behalf of the people. So, where is their problem? Why do we want to throw out the baby with the bathwater?

Mr Speaker, women have been arguing about gender representation. Yes, Article 259 says that every appointing authority should consider 50/50 representation. The preamble in the Constitution of 2016 says that women and men should contribute equally. Additionally, when it comes to nominations, the Constitution says that the President should consider gender when making nominations. However, here is the catch: as long as we do not have a legal framework, whether through the quota system or proportional representation, the enactment of the law in itself will not bring the law to life. Is it not a shame that as a country which is peaceful and has enjoyed democracy, we still have only 15 per cent women in Parliament? Is that not a shame on us? We have a moment when we can correct that, but people want to throw the whole process away. Zambia, enough talking. The commissions speak to the conversations that have happened. People have come for benchmarking in Zambia and they have gone back and done wonders while we are still talking about consultation. No one is frowning on consultations, but consultations have happened already so it is time to do what is right for Zambians.

Mr Speaker, in December 2015, the Constitution was amended and passed in this House. It was assented to on 5^th January, 2016. When were elections? Were they not in the same year in August? So, why do we want to be hypocrites? As my hon. Colleague from Luapula said yesterday, Hon. Lubinda, the Minister of Justice then, stated that the Government would resume the process of delimitation in September 2021. The PF Government was hopeful that it would come back to power. Unfortunately, the fortunate happened. The United Party for National Development (UPND) came to power.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Ms Kasune: So, I encourage every citizen to find the statement that Hon. Lubinda made in this House.

Mr Speaker, as I conclude, our own Eighth National Development Plan (8NDP) speaks to the need for 50/50 representation. Hence, as the UPND, we cannot run away because from 2022, we have been saying that we need 50/50 representation in 2026.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Order!

The hon. Minister’s time expired.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Hon. Minister, may you conclude.

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, on the issue of children, I think, wake me up.

Mr Second Deputy Speaker: Your time has run out.

Ms Kasune: Mr Speaker, in conclusion, it is important that we familiarise ourselves with the Constitution so that we do not leave it to Kasune alone to read it for us. Do not leave it to others to read it for you. Article 58 says that the Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ) should give a report every ten years. When you look at 2016 and the election coming in 2026, you can do the math. Zambians should not be misled by few voices but follow what is procedural and what this Government, their Government, is committed to.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

The Minister of Education (Mr Syakalima): Mr Speaker, thank you for giving me the opportunity to express my deepest gratitude to the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Hakainde Hichilema, for his inspiring address on the progress made in the application of our national values and principles.

Mr Speaker, I sincerely appreciate the President’s unwavering commitment to education as the best investment, inheritance and equaliser across society. Indeed, education has transformed the lives of many, including those of us privileged to serve in the House today. As he rightfully emphasised, it is education that has brought us here, nothing else. This truth resonates across our nation, reinforcing the need to ensure that every Zambian child, regardless of his background, has access to quality education. This is what an ethical Government can do. The Free Education Policy continues to bear remarkable results, inspiring learners of all ages to return to school. The story of Ms Dorothy, a forty-two-year-old pupil from Solwezi District, is a testament to the far-reaching impact of the initiative. Her determination embodies the spirit of lifelong learning and underscores the transformative power of education. We wholeheartedly join the President in celebrating her efforts and encouraging more citizens to seize the opportunity. It is never too late to learn.

Mr Speaker, the President’s strong emphasis on expanding access to education is a powerful call to action. His unwavering resolve to ensure that more and more children receive an education is testament to his vision for an enlightened and empowered Zambia. Education is, indeed, the best investment ever, and we commend his leadership for making it a national priority. In fact, the best value a nation can have is educating its own people. Furthermore, we celebrate the notable improvement in academic performance across the country. The increase in pass rates reflects the positive impact of strategic interventions, including curriculum reforms, enhanced teacher recruitment, improved school infrastructure and the provision of learning materials as well as learner support at various levels.

Mr Speaker, the impact of the Constituency Development Fund (CDF) on the education sector cannot be overstated. The CDF bursaries have transformed the lives of many children by providing them with the opportunity to return to school. Additionally, the CDF has significantly improved the learning environment by increasing classroom space and supplying desks across the country. This has created a valuable opportunity for our learners to thrive. We recognise and appreciate the investments being made in school infrastructure, recruitment of teachers and provision of desks, which have significantly contributed to creating a more conducive learning environment. The Home-Grown School Meals (HGSM) Programme, which now benefits over 4.7 million learners, is another milestone that is keeping children in school, improving nutrition and enhancing learning outcomes.

Mr Speaker, we also applaud the President’s commitment and dedication to addressing social challenges affecting learners, including drug and substance abuse, teenage pregnancies and gender-based violence (GBV). The Government’s multi-sectoral approach to tackling those issues is commendable, as it ensures that learners remain in a safe and supportive environment.

Mr Speaker, the President’s commitment to good governance, democracy and national unity has fostered an environment where education can thrive. His call for all citizens to embrace patriotism and hard work resonates deeply with us in the education sector, as we continue to instil these values in our learners. To the teachers, parents, civil society organisations (CSOs), development partners and all education stakeholders, we express our sincere gratitude for their collaboration and dedication. Their tireless efforts in shaping the future of children and building an educated, skilled and productive nation are deeply appreciated. Once again, we extend our profound gratitude to the President for his visionary leadership and dedication to the education sector and the economy as a whole. Indeed, the President is walking his talk and we are inspired to uphold our National Values and Principles in every aspect of our lives, especially in pursuit of a brighter future for all Zambian learners.

Mr Speaker, let me now turn to a thorny issue. Today, I was worried when my hon. Colleagues were talking about constitutionalism and changing the Constitution in order to have more women representation in this House. I could see some women in here yelling or wailing against that proposal. I cannot imagine why they would do that. If you are a woman of your own sort and you cannot really protect yourself, how else do you want us to help you? We all know that our politics have not been good for women. So, do some women in here want to force us to ignore them? From where I stand, we shall make sure that women are represented in here. After all, I am a product of a woman. I can only be a man if I come from a woman. The greatest respect a country can ever have is to respect its women. That is why I get troubled when a girl child is troubled. When the hon. Minister of Justice was debating and there were disturbances, I said to myself that sometimes there is an animal in man. If we do not support women, who is going to support them? Some women are rejecting our support. We shall reject their rejection.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Syakalima: We shall make sure that we support them whether they like it or not.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Syakalima: We have a duty to do that. We cannot talk about good governance without women when 50 per cent of our population are women. All those arguing against more women’s representation in this House must be ashamed of themselves. Shame on them!

Ms Nakaponda: Why are you looking at me?

Laughter

Mr Syakalima: I know you support yourself and we shall give you 100 per cent support, hon. Member.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Syakalima: If you stand again in your constituency, we will come there and campaign for you under the United Party for National Development (UPND) as we get back into power in 2026.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Syakalima: I want to tell those who think that we are here to play that we are not here to play. They can ask Hon. Sunday Chanda about Kanchibiya, where I have been. We are getting along with him and everyone there. So, for those who do not want to join us now, this is the time to reflect because time is running out.

Interruptions

Mr Syakalima: Mr Speaker, I am talking about the Constitution.

Mr Mabumba indicated assent.

Mr Syakalima: I have seen my friend from Mwense nodding. Let us all support women and one another. After all, we are precious partners in development.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

The Minister of Green Economy and Environment (Mr Mposha): Mr Speaker, I wish to thank you most sincerely for according me this opportunity to join other hon. Members of this august House in debating the speech delivered on 28^th February, 2025, by the President of the Republic of Zambia, Mr Hakainde Hichilema, on the Progress Made in the Application of National Values and Principles.

Mr Speaker, hon. Members will agree with me that the address by the President was important and timely in steering the socio-economic development of the country, especially that the country is just recovering from the negative impacts of a drought experienced during the 2023/2024 Rainfall Season, which affected more than 6 million people in eight-four districts countrywide. The President’s Address was profound, particularly on sustainable development, when he indicated that climate change has threatened our national food, energy and water security as well as our biodiversity. Indeed, climate change has disrupted our development efforts and highly contributed to the increased cost of living.

Mr Speaker, notably, Zambia’s climate has been changing over the last decades and has been coupled with extreme temperatures, droughts and seasonal flooding. The natural environment has been adversely affected by human settlements, industries, mining, business entities, unsustainable agriculture practices, waste management and charcoal production, among others. This is coupled with the effects of climate change, which is already affecting our water access and causing more severe droughts and floods. The current load-shedding our country is facing is partly attributed to that situation because the green infrastructure, which includes trees and other vegetation, has been destroyed.

Mr Speaker, the current climate situation presents significant challenges that necessitate immediate and comprehensive action. Recognising the severity of such challenges and to ensure a co-ordinated and effective response to climate change, the Government, through my ministry, is actively implementing multi-faceted strategies to enhance mitigation and adaptation to the adverse effects of climate change. Some of these include the Green Growth Strategy, the National Adaptation Plan and the Green Economy and Climate Change Act. These strategic documents encompass several key interventions as follows:

Forest Restoration and Expansion

Mr Speaker, we are prioritising afforestation initiatives, planting new forests and promoting the natural regeneration of existing forests to enhance carbon sequestration and ecosystem resilience.

Climate Information Dissemination

Mr Speaker, accurate and timely weather and climate information is crucial for informed decision-making. We are committed to improving the dissemination of that information to communities, businesses and other stakeholders.

Environmental Awareness and Education

Mr Speaker, we are conducting extensive environmental awareness programmes to educate the public about the importance of environmental stewardship and the actions people can take to combat climate change. To that effect, we need to emphasise that we need the inclusion of the school-going children because once you teach young people about the importance of the environment and protecting it, they grow up placing value on the issues around environmental protection.

Strengthened Environmental Compliance and Monitoring

Mr Speaker, to reduce environmental pollution and ensure adherence to environmental regulations, we are strengthening environmental compliance monitoring and enforcement. This includes rigorous oversight of industrial activities and other potential sources of pollution.

Mr Speaker, I further wish to acknowledge the President's emphasis on addressing alcohol and substance abuse. The ministry fully supports the Government's efforts to provide counselling, rehabilitation and law enforcement interventions. We recognise that a healthy and productive society is intrinsically linked to a healthy environment.

Mr Speaker, my ministry also supports the President's commitment to eradicating child marriages and teenage pregnancies. We recognise that such harmful practices have profound and lasting consequences not only for the girls involved but on the broader health and sustainability of our nation. We understand that educated girls are key to environmental sustainability. Girls who remain in school are more likely to make informed decisions on resource management and environmental conservation.

 Mr Speaker, allow me to also express my ministry’s support for the President's focus on patriotism and national unity, and the vital role they play in achieving environmental sustainability. As a ministry, we believe that environmental stewardship is an act of patriotism and national unity, which enables collective action against environmental challenges. My ministry, therefore, commits to integrating environmental values into national unity programmes and promoting environmental awareness as a shared responsibility.

Mr Speaker, my ministry supports the President's firm stance against land encroachment. The growing trend poses a significant threat not only to private property rights but also to environmental sustainability. My ministry endorses the President's condemnation of land encroachment, particularly, as it critically impacts protected forest reserves. Illegal encroachment in vital areas leads to rapid deforestation, habitat destruction and biodiversity loss, thereby, undermining the ecological integrity and climate resilience of our nation. That unlawful activity exacerbates climate change impact through reduced carbon sequestration and increased vulnerability to extreme weather events. Therefore, we pledge to intensify our collaborative efforts with relevant authorities to strengthen enforcement, promote sustainable land management and increase public awareness to ensure preservation of our protected forest reserves for the wellbeing of the present and future generations.

Mr Speaker, we acknowledge and support the President's re-affirmation of the New Dawn Government's commitment to the promotion of democracy and constitutionalism. It is indisputable that democracy and constitutionalism are fundamental to building a sustainable green economy and protecting our environment. A democratic society ensures that its citizens have a voice in shaping policies that promote green energy conservation and responsible resource management. A strong democratic framework also empowers the civil society and media to advocate for policies that protect our forests, rivers and air, ultimately, securing a healthier future for all Zambians. It cannot be over-emphasised that constitutionalism and adherence to the supreme law of the land provide the legal foundation for environmental protection and embed sustainability in our national laws. A firm rule of law ensures that environmental regulations, such as pollution control and sustainable land use, are not just political promises, but legally binding obligations. An independent Judiciary is crucial in holding industries and individuals accountable for environmental violations and ensuring that Zambia's natural resources are sustainably utilised and preserved for the current and future generations.

As I conclude, Mr Speaker, let me affirm my ministry's unwavering commitment to supporting the President's vision for a prosperous and sustainable Zambia by aligning our efforts with the national values and principles of morality, patriotism and unity. We will strive to safeguard our natural resources and promote responsible environmental stewardship. I pledge to collaboratively work with all stakeholders to ensure that our environment is properly protected.

Mr Speaker, I support the Motion on the well-delivered speech by the President.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.

Mr Chanda (Kanchibiya): Mr. Speaker, as we conclude this debate, I wish to extend my gratitude to the hon. Members who engaged in the discussion; both those who supported and those who challenged the Motion. That is what democracy is all about, the courage to debate, the freedom to disagree and the responsibility to find common ground in the best interest of the people we serve. To those who supported the Motion, their voices re-affirmed the importance of national values and principles in shaping governance and service delivery. To those who had reservations or opposed the Motion, their concerns remind us that we must never settle for half measures when it comes to justice, equity and service to the people.

Mr Speaker, when posterity sits in judgment of all of us, we will need to answer the following critical questions:

1. did we have the courage to fight corruption, injustice and inequality, or did we look the other way?
2. did we make decisions with wisdom and integrity, or did we allow self-interest and political survival to guide us?
3. did we dedicate ourselves to lifting the poor out of poverty, or did we settle for policies that maintain the status quo?
4. did we speak for the unemployed graduate whose dreams fade with each passing year?
5. did we create opportunities for Generation Z (Gen Z) and Generation Alpha, or we left them to inherit nothing but hardships?
6. did we make it easier for smallholder farmers to succeed, or have we continued a system that favours only the privileged?
7. did we ensure that healthcare and education reached the remotest village in Kanchibiya, or did we allow inequality to persist?
8. can children in rural Zambia, like Kanchibiya, today dream of a better tomorrow because of our actions, or will they grow up believing that leadership is just words, not results?
9. did we, as a generation of leaders, leave Zambia a better place than we found it?

Mr Speaker, the urgency of now demands action. Our people are not asking for rhetoric, they are demanding results, and the foundation of those results lies in the Constitution, which becomes an engine for improved service delivery, not a tool for political convenience. We may disagree on many things; on policies, ideologies or strategies, but let us agree on one thing, that our people deserve better. Our people must get better. Our people shall get better. The people of Zambia, especially the people of Kanchibiya, are speaking and we must listen. They are saying that they hear the assurances coming from the Government regarding constitutional amendments. They will hold the Government to its word on not extending the term of office and not removing the Running Mate Clause. The Government has assured us. Leadership is about service and not self-preservation. The people of Kanchibiya say that they will hold the Government to the assurance that the 50 per cent plus One Clause in the Constitution will remain. Our democracy demands that we remain strong and truly reflective of the people's will. The people are also saying that we should start dividing Kanchibiya into four constituencies, as captured in the report, beginning with two. How can we claim to deliver effective representation when one hon. Member is expected to serve an area spanning 8,800 km²? We need reasonably-sized constituencies to ensure effective and efficient delivery. Constitutional amendments are a must and there will not be a right time and best time to work on them.

Mr Speaker, beyond representation, what are we doing for the aged? What are we doing to secure the future of retirees and people who have served this nation in different endeavours? These are not just mere concerns, they are cries of a nation that has entrusted us with its hopes and dreams. The people are not asking for favours. They are not begging. They are demanding what is rightfully theirs; better governance, accountable leadership and real service delivery.

Mr Samakayi: Hear, hear!

Mr Chanda: Mr Speaker, if our politics cannot answer these questions, then what is the purpose of politics? If our time in this House does not change the lives of the people out there, then what are we here for?

Mr Speaker, in the words of John F. Kennedy, he reminded us that, “It is not our wealth that built our roads, but it is our roads that built our wealth.” For the people of Kanchibiya, as we launch the Kaonda and Aluni bridges tomorrow, we celebrate yet another milestone, getting us closer to improved service delivery for our people.

Mr Speaker, history will not judge us by the eloquence of our speeches, but by what we did when we had the power to act. The time for excuses is over, and the time for action is now. Our people deserve better; our people must get better. Together, we shall ensure that they do.

Mr Speaker, with these few remarks, allow me to submit.

Mr Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Speaker: Order!

Question put and agreed to.

ADJOURNMENT

The Minister of Home Affairs and Internal Security and Acting Leader of Government Business in the House (Mr Mwiimbu, SC.): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.

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The House adjourned at 1141 hours until 1430 hours on Tuesday, 25^th March, 2025.

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