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DAILY PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES FOR THE FOURTH SESSION OF THE TENTH ASSEMBLY
Tuesday 23rd February, 2010


The House met at 1430 hours


[MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair]


NATIONAL ANTHEM


PRAYER

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ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER

ACTING LEADER OF GOVERNMENT BUSINESS IN THE HOUSE

Madam Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, in the absence of His Honour the Vice-President and Minister of Justice, who is attending to other national duties, Hon. Lameck Mangani, MP, Minister of Home Affairs, will act as Leader of Government Business in the House from Tuesday, 23rd February to Thursday, 4th March, 2010.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

I thank you.

DEATH OF MR REUBEN CHISANGA BANDA, MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT FOR MILANZI

Madam Deputy Speaker: I wish to acquaint the House with a fact already sadly known that the House lost one of its Members, Mr Reuben Chisanga Banda, Member of Parliament for Milanzi Parliamentary Constituency, who passed away on Friday, 5th February, 2010, at the University Teaching Hospital (UTH).

The late Mr Reuben Chisanga Banda, MP, was buried in Katete on Monday 8th February, 2010. The House was represented at the burial by the following Members of Parliament and members of staff:

Hon. H. I. Mwanza, MP, Deputy Chief Whip (Leader of the Delegation);
Mr J. K. Zulu, MP;
Mr P. Sichamba, MP;
Ms E. M. Imbwae, MP;
Ms J. Kapata; MP;
Mr H. H. Hamududu, MP;
Mr B. Sikazwe, MP;
Mr P. P. Chanda, MP;
Mr V. Mwale, MP;
Mr J. B. Chongo, MP;
Mr B. Chanda, Assistant Chief Editor of Parliamentary Publications (Secretary to the Delegation); and
Mr A. Phiri, Parliamentary Security Officer.

I have already conveyed the sympathies and condolences of the House to the bereaved family.

May I now request the House to rise and observe a minute of silence in honour of the memory of the late Hon. Reuben Chisanga Banda.

Members of Parliament stood in silence for one minute.

I thank you.

SESSIONAL COMMITTEES ─ MEMBERSHIP

Madam Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to inform the House that, in accordance with the provisions of the Standing Orders, the following appointments have been made to the Membership of some Sessional Committees in the light of the appointment of Hon. M. J. C. Misapa, MP, as Deputy Minister of Sport, Youth and Child Development:

Committee on Agriculture and Lands

Mr G. Namulambe, MP, to replace Hon. M. J. C. Misapa, MP.

Committee on Education, Science and Technology

Mr V. Mwale, MP, to replace Hon. M. J. C. Misapa, MP.

Committee on Energy, Environment and Tourism

Mr G. Namulambe, MP, to replace Mr V. Mwale, MP.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

I thank you.

MEMBERSHIP TO THE PAN-AFRICAN PARLIAMENT

Madam Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I wish to inform the House that after the usual consultations, Mrs S. T. Masebo, MP, has been designated Member of the Pan-African Parliament (PAP), to replace Hon. M. J. C. Misapa, MP, who has now been appointed Deputy Minister in the Executive Branch of the Government.

I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

The Minister of Home Affairs (Mr Mangani): Madam Speaker, I rise to give some idea of the business the House will consider this week. However, before I do this, allow me to welcome all hon. Members to the mid-session meeting of the House, following the change in the parliamentary calendar. Although hon. Members are just from attending to other important national duties, I believe that they are ready and anxious to undertake the business of the House in the next few weeks.

Madam Speaker, let me now turn to the business the House will consider this week. Today, Tuesday, 23rd February, 2010, the main business of the House will comprise items as indicated on the Order Paper.

Tomorrow, Wednesday, 24th February, 2010, the business of the House will begin with Questions, if there will be any. This will be followed by a presentation of Government Bills, if there will be any. Thereafter, the House will consider Private Members’ Motions, if there will be any. The House will then consider the Second Reading Stage of the Disaster Management Bill, 2009.

On Thursday, 25th February, 2010, the business of the House will begin with Questions, if there will be any. This will be followed by a presentation of Government Bills, if there will be any.

On Friday, 26th February, 2010, the business of the House will begin with His Honour the Vice-President’s Question Time. The House will then consider Questions, if there will be any. This will be followed by a presentation of Government Bills, if there will be any. Thereafter, the House will consider any other business that might have been presented earlier in the week.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!

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QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

COLLECTIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNEMENT AND THE ZAMBIA AGENCY FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

227. Mr D. Mwila (Chipili) asked the Minister of Labour and Social Security:

(a)    when a new collective agreement between the Government and the Zambia Agency for Persons with Disabilities would be entered into;

(b)    when the last collective agreement was signed;

(c)    why it had taken long to sign a new collective agreement; and

(d)    when salary structures of employees of the Zambia National Council for the Blind and those of the Zambia Agency for Persons with Disabilities would be harmonised

The Minister of Labour and Social Security (Mr Liato): Madam Speaker, first and foremost, I wish to state that the Government does not enter into direct negotiations with the Zambia Agency for Persons with Disabilities (ZAPD). ZAPD entered into negotiations with the union in 2006 when the 2005 Collective Agreement expired.

The new collective agreement was drawn up, but has not been signed by the negotiating parties. The two parties, however, concluded the negotiations in April, 2009 and the collective agreement will be submitted to the Ministry of Labour and Social Security for approval.

Madam Speaker, the last collective agreement was signed on 9th March, 2005. It ran from 1st January to 31st December, 2005. ZAPD and the union entered into negotiations, as far back as 2006, in order to have a new collective agreement in place. New collective agreements have been drawn and the negotiations have been completed and forwarded to the parent ministry which is the Ministry of Community Development and Social Services as per procedure.

The Zambia Council for the Handicapped is now called ZAPD. It came into being by the enactment of the Disabilities Act Number 33 of 1996. Currently, the agency is in the process of harmornising the salary structures for the employees who were working under the Zambian Council for the Handicapped.

 Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr D. Mwila: Madam Speaker, we expect a collective agreement to be signed immediately the negotiations are completed. It is now ten months, and yet the agreement has not been signed. Could the hon. Minister indicate to this House what the Government is doing about that.

Mr Liato: Madam Speaker, basically, issues of collective bargaining are between the union and the employer. As a ministry, we usually extend collective agreements when the negotiation processes are still going on. This could be one of such cases.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Mukanga (Kantanshi): Madam Speaker, ZAPD is supposed to give loans to people living with disabilities, but why is it impossible for people living with disabilities to access these loans?

Mr Liato: Madam Speaker, although the question the hon. Member has asked has nothing to do with what is on the Order Paper, I wish to state that issues of loans and entitlements are part of collective agreements. Therefore, the hon. Member will do well to look at the existing collective agreement.
 
 I thank you, Madam Speaker.

 Mr Kambwili (Roan): Madam Speaker, if I heard the hon. Minister correctly, he said that the last agreement was signed in 2005 and it ran from January to December of that year. Which collective agreement was used from January, 2006 to December, 2008?

Mr Liato: Madam Speaker, if the hon. Member had tried to listen, earlier, he would have heard that I said that there were cases whose negotiations or processes of collective bargaining were still going on. In such cases, it is usually the old collective agreement that is applied because there is already a provision that the ministry can extend the lifespan of the existing one.

 I thank you, Madam Speaker.

CONTRACT BETWEEN NITROGEN CHEMICALS OF ZAMBIA AND AFRICAN EXPLOSIVES LIMITED

228. Mr D. Mwila asked the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives:

(a)    why the Nitrogen Chemicals of Zambia entered into a contract with African Explosives Limited for the manufacture of ammonium nitrate;

(b)    what the duration of the contract was; and

(c)    whether the contract provided that African Explosives Limited take over the top management of the company.

The Deputy Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives (Mr Mbewe): The agreement signed between Nitrogen Chemicals of Zambia (NCZ) and African Explosives Limited (AEL) is a supply contract in which NCZ has undertaken to supply AEL with its requirements of explosive-grade ammonium nitrate. Currently, AEL imports all its ammonium requirements. NCZ has the necessary infrastructure for the production of ammonium nitrate and had previously, up to 2002, been supplying this product to Kafironda Limited.

The agreement was partly a culmination of NCZ’s earlier efforts to secure markets for its products. It was also a direct outcome of the Investment Promotion and Protection Agreement signed on 2nd December, 2008 between the Government of the Republic of Zambia (GRZ) and the Zambia Development Agency (ZDA) on one hand and AEL on the other, where AEL undertook to promote local businesses by sourcing ammonium nitrate locally.

This contract will provide NCZ with a ready market for ammonium nitrate which could be worth up to K110 billion per annum, depending on the volume of the product supplied. AEL is currently the largest consumer of this product in Zambia.

This contract could also be used by NCZ to borrow funds from lending institutions to enable it to rehabilitate the ammonium nitrate plant and procure raw materials. Currently, the ammonium nitrate plant is non-operational due to the need for rehabilitation and lack of working capital for raw materials and other operational needs. A total of K14 billion is required to repair the plant and procure raw materials to start it up. The implementation of the contract by NCZ will depend on the procurement of raw materials and repair of the plant.

It is intended that surplus revenues generated from this plant will enable NCZ to progressively rehabilitate its other non-operational units and ultimately make it financially independent.

Madam Speaker, the contract, which was signed on 31st August, 2009 is for an initial duration of five years, but it can be extended by the concerned parties.

The contract is purely a supply contract and does not provide for AEL taking over the top management of NCZ.

Madam Speaker, I thank you.

Mr D. Mwila: Madam Speaker, the Government made a commitment, last year, to invest money in NCZ. Would the hon. Minister indicate to this House whether that commitment has been changed?

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, the commitment, which was made last year, still stands. Presently, there are studies taking place at NCZ. When the report is ready, the public will be informed accordingly.

 I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Nkombo (Mazabuka Central): Madam Speaker, now that AEL has signed a contract with NCZ and the hon. Minister has confirmed that the cash flows of NCZ will soon be good, I would like to know where the former employees’ dues rank in the company’s priorities once it starts making profits.

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, this Government is determination to settle the payments of all those who are owed money immediately NCZ is fully operational.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Beene (Itezhi-tezhi): Madam Speaker, the price of fertiliser in the country is so high that it has contributed to NCZ’s failure to produce it. Why has the Government not considered privatising NCZ so that it can be viable and help this country since this Government has failed to recapitalise it?

Hon. Opposition Members: Hear, hear!

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, I stated earlier that the studies were still under way and a decision will be made when the results of the studies are out.

Madam Speaker, in addition, I would like to say that this Government has created a conducive business atmosphere for our business partners.

Hon. Opposition Members: Aah! Question!

Mr Mbewe: Mr Speaker, I can challenge those who are saying ‘question’ by saying that …

Mr Kambwili: It is ‘Madam Speaker’ and not ‘Mr Speaker’.

Madam Deputy Speaker: Order!

Laughter

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, I can challenge those who are trying to challenge me by saying that, at the moment, we have a conducive business atmosphere for fertiliser making. There are companies that are manufacturing fertiliser in the country.

Hon. Opposition Members: Where? Which ones?

Mr Mbewe: Madam, I am surprised that people are very ignorant of …

Madam Deputy Speaker: Order!

Hon. Minister, do not listen to those voices.

Laughter

Madam Deputy Speaker: Order! Order!

Stick to your response and give it clearly without referring to the heckling.

The hon. Deputy Minister may continue.

Mr Mbewe: I thank you, Madam Speaker. The environment for the fertiliser business is very conducive. There is a Zambian company which manufactures fertiliser locally. Last year, it produced over 90 metric tonnes of fertiliser which was supplied to the farmers.

Additionally, there is Green Belt, a company that is also manufacturing fertiliser. I am very surprised that hon. Members do not have this information.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Hon. Government Members: Hear, hear! Hammer!

Mr Kakoma (Zambezi West): Madam Speaker, the hon. Deputy Minister informed us that NCZ is looking for K14 billion to invest in the production of ammonium nitrate to supply AEL. I would like to find out whether the Government, in its commitments to NCZ, will provide the company with the K14 billion to start producing ammonium nitrate?

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, as I stated earlier, studies are still going on and the Government will only come up with a final decision when these studies have been completed.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Muntanga (Kalomo Central): Madam Speaker, I would like the hon. Minister to clarify his statement that a contract has been entered into between NCZ and AEL. The hon. Minister further informed the House that this will improve the cash flow of NCZ. How will this be possible when the ammonium nitrate plant has broken down?

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, the agreement will come into effect after the rehabilitation and studies have been completed.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Simuusa (Nchanga): Madam Speaker, I would like to find out from the hon. Minister why AEL was allowed to produce non-agricultural ammonium nitrate, and yet we import almost all the ammonium nitrate for agriculture. Why did the Government not allow a contract with, for instance, Omnia?

Mr Mbewe: Madam Speaker, this was permitted through a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) and we feel that when the final report comes out, a final decision will be made.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Interruptions

Mr Lubinda (Kabwata): Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister has mentioned the studies more than eight times. Can he be kind enough to inform this House what those studies are about? Is it the studies that should inform them whether they should change the main business of NCZ from fertiliser to producing explosive ammonium nitrate? Since he said that we are ignorant, could he, please, give us more information on whichever companies are producing fertiliser in Zambia besides the ones that only mix and repack the fertiliser that they import? May he, please, clarify this.

The Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives (Mr Daka): Madam Speaker, Cabinet appointed a committee to understudy the way forward for NCZ. That is what the hon. Deputy Minister is trying to put across.

In addition, the Government will give NCZ a contract to manufacture about 20,000 metric tonnes of fertiliser. Once this is done, it will help improve the company’s balance sheet.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Shakafuswa (Katuba): Madam Speaker, according to the answer given by the hon. Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, the contract between AEL and NCZ will come into effect after the rehabilitation of the nitrate plant. I would like to find out whether it is economical for us to engage a partner in the nitrate plant after the Government has spent so much money rehabilitating it. In this region, ammonium nitrate is produced in Zimbabwe and there is a huge market for it. It can also be produced by NCZ so as to maximise on the returns on investment …

Madam Deputy Speaker: You are debating. Could you ask your question?

Mr Shakafuswa: Is it economical for us to engage a partner after we have spent a lot of money on rehabilitating NCZ?

Mr Daka: Madam Speaker, the situation is such that rehabilitating the whole plant would require almost K74 billion. However, to rehabilitate the nitrate plant, we only require K14 billion. If NCZ is given the contract to supply fertiliser and AEL gives NCZ a contract, the economies of scale will be balanced to allow it to operate.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Ntundu (Gwembe): Madam Speaker, the hon. Minister has talked about giving a contract to NCZ to supply fertiliser, and yet the Government owes NCZ. I would like to find out how NCZ will get back to its feet …

Mr Ntundu pointed at the hon. Minister.

Madam Deputy Speaker: Can that finger point downwards, please?

Laughter

Mr Ntundu: I would like the hon. Minister to explain to this House how possible it is for NCZ to get back to its normal operations when the Government owes it a colossal sum of money. Can the hon. Minister tell this House how NCZ will get back to its full operations?

Mr Daka: Madam Speaker, it is not possible for NCZ to get back to full throttle. We just want to make it produce what AEL requires. At the moment, NCZ owes a lot of banks money and, for the information of hon. Members, the Government has been bailing out the company.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

OPENING OF A PEPSI ZAMBIA PLANT IN LUSAKA

229. Mr Mwango (Kanchibiya) asked the Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry:

    (a)    when Pepsi Zambia would open a plant in Lusaka;

(b)    how much money the bottling company intended to invest in the project;

(c)    what the source of funding for the project would be; and

(d)    how many jobs would be created by the project.

The Minister of Livestock and Fisheries Development (Mr Machila) (on behalf of the Minister of Commerce, Trade and Industry (Mr Mutati): Madam Speaker, Pepsi Varum Beverages Zambia Limited has commenced preparations of the piece of land where the plant by Pepsi Zambia is to be built. The company shall complete the construction of its plant and immediately commence production by March, 2010.

Madam Speaker, the company intends to invest US$30 million in the project that is financed by the shareholders and loan financing from India. It is expected to create a total of 214 direct jobs and 600 indirect jobs. The company will further put up 1,000 small outlets across the country that will provide employment to individuals, including the youth and underprivileged women.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Mwango: Madam Speaker, I would like to find out how many foreign nationals the company will employ.

Mr Machila: Madam Speaker, the number of foreign nationals to be employed has not yet been finalised. Suffice it to say that this project will create 214 direct jobs and about 600 indirect jobs.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Lumba (Solwezi Central): Madam Speaker, I would like to find out from the hon. Minister if Pepsi Zambia is a Zambian incorporated company. If so, are there any Zambian directors in this company?

Mr Machila: Madam Speaker, as stated, this is a local company and is registered, here, although its shareholding is foreign and its directors are representatives of its shareholders from India.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mr Kambwili: Madam Speaker, I would like to know on what statistics Pepsi Zambia based its calculations of creating 1,000 jobs. In short, what is the annual average consumption of Pepsi in Zambia?

Interruptions

Madam Deputy Speaker: Order!

We have to know the parameters of the preparations of an hon. Minister on a question because, sometimes, we overstretch and, therefore, the answers may not be as clear as you would like them to be. However, if the hon. Minister has the answer, he may go ahead.

Mr Machila: Madam Speaker, the hon. Member is clearly on a fishing expedition, hence that information is not readily available.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Laughter

STATUS OF THE GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATION FLIGHTS DEPARTMENT

230. Colonel Chanda (Kanyama) asked the Minister of Communications and Transport:

(a)    what the current status of the Government Communication Flights Department was; and

(b)    whether the Government had any plans to dispose of the unserviceable planes and related equipment belonging to the department.

The Deputy Minister of Communications and Transport (Mr Mubika): Madam Speaker, the status of the department, in terms of its core function, is somewhat moribund due to lack of aircraft. However, the department inherited the assets of the defunct national airline (Zambia Airways) in June, 2005 and has since been involved in the rehabilitation and maintenance of the infrastructure and workshop equipment which was not sold by the liquidators of Zambia Airways.

The department has neither serviceable nor unserviceable aircraft. Initially, the department operated five Piper Aztec aircrafts that were replaced by one modern Beechcraft C90 at that time. The five Piper Aztec aircraft, together with their related equipment, were sold in 1991 to Travel International Air Charters (TIAC), Aircraft Services of Chingola under Tender Board Authority No. TB/ORD/002/95 and the proceeds were used to procure the Beechcraft C90.

The Beechcraft C90, together with its related equipment, were sold to Messrs Amanita Premium Oils Limited in August, 2005, under Tender Board Authority No. MCT/GCF/02/2006 at a cost of K170 million and the money was deposited in Control 99.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

Colonel Chanda: Madam Speaker, I would like to find out whether it was cost effective to sell the equipment as opposed to repairing it.

The Minister of Communications and Transport (Professor Lungwangwa): Madam Speaker, the aircraft in-question was vandalised to a great extent and it was a decision of the Government to dispose of it because it was cost effective.

I thank you, Madam Speaker.

 
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